@GrantTK what i started with was a couple plants i bought from the farm store, cherry orange, and grape, tried to grow beef steaks from seeds, actually got a bunch of those to sprout, potted all those in large pots, that i'll wheel into the heated garage over winter, and was i explained above i'm experimenting with propagating the cuttings of my plants i had outside since i actually found i like the orange cherries, then i got red cherreis that i grow from seeds, they're allgoing in pots for winter so i have an experiment to see how well i can growthem indoors over winter, then i'll propagate off those plants and put the propagations in the ground or raised beds for the season