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   Stever Robbins (stever@newsie.social)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 07:44:14 JST Stever Robbins

   I actually feel very strongly that AI companies and model builders should have to compensate those whose data is used to build the models (or get releases if they don’t compensate). If that requirement tanks the field, I’m willing to do it. Algorithmic theft is no less theft, no matter how clever the delivery mechanism https://twitter.com/EZE3D/status/1601695610498781184

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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 07:44:10 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     here's a shout out for @glynmoody 's Walled Culture book, that I finished reading today. he makes a great case on how copyright has become increasingly harmful and unnecessary in a digital society.
     
     in line with the ideas defended in the book, he contributed it to the public domain, and offered it for gratis downloads. my only (half-humorous) gripe with the book is that he missed the opportunity to dedicate it to his true fans; that would have been a nice extra touch to an already great book. maybe something for a 2nd edition? :-)
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     CyberSpook?? (cyberspook@soc.redeyes.site)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Dec-2022 07:44:11 JST CyberSpook??

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     Copyright is a mistake in the first place, the logic of intellectual theft is itself a problem. Copyright needs to be abolished, not strengthened, it's an instrument of oppression, an institution of power, not emancipation, the very reason that these huge corporations use copyright forces everyone else to do the same just to survive, making the copyright law stronger instead of weaker makes things worse. Copyright should die in a fire, it is the by-product of the capitalists' insatiable profit-seeking, nothing more. By supporting it you support capitalist exploitation. Simple as that. It's class collaborationism to its fullest, the true expression of neoliberalism, the desire of petty capitalists to be rich and successful at the expense of everyone else and a delusion that the copyright law will save them from the bigger fish (won't happen, the capitalist market will eat them alive).
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     Alexandre Oliva (lxo@gnusocial.net)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 11:57:26 JST Alexandre Oliva

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     you mean now, or once copyright gets abolished?
     (hint: neither depends on copyright; I linked to a great book in this thread that answers your question)
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     Stever Robbins (stever@newsie.social)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 11:57:27 JST Stever Robbins

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     @icedquinn @cyberspook So how do artists and writers and other creators get paid?

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Saturday, 24-Dec-2022 11:57:28 JST iced depresso

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     @cyberspook @stever it's cute that people think megacorps care about data ethics.
     
     they've been robbing everyone blind since their first day :blobcatlaugh2: