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   Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 02:46:41 JST Hyolobrika
   I'm seriously considering making an account on Bluesky so I can ask people what the appeal of it is.
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     georgia (georgia@netzsphaere.xyz)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 02:46:38 JST georgia

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     @anemone @Hyolobrika hubzilla already has nomadic identity :>
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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 02:46:39 JST anemone

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     @Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net so in theory (I'm skeptical in practice) it's not vulnerable the same way twitter is. I think they're also supposed to be fixing an issue with fedi: non-portable accounts

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     anemone@ebiverse.social's status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 02:46:40 JST anemone

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     @Hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net the appeal is that it's like twitter pre-musk

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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 02:46:40 JST Hyolobrika

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     @anemone But then why bother making it """""'"'decentralized""""""""?
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 02:53:02 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @georgia @anemone @Hyolobrika nobody actually cares about nomadic identity. As you said, there have been implementations for years.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 02:53:33 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @Hyolobrika it’s like lefty twitter used to be, kinda boring, but that’s where they huge crowd comes from
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 04:49:01 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @Hyolobrika I don’t understand the question
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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 04:49:02 JST Hyolobrika

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     @lain But then why not Mastodon/fediverse?
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     silverpill (silverpill@mitra.social)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 04:58:24 JST silverpill

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     @Hyolobrika @anemone Because this is what people want.
     New centralized social networks can't compete with Twitter and other incumbents. They can offer slightly better moderation and slightly better UI, but this is not enough. The network size is far more important.

     Decentralization, on the other hand, is a strong competitive advantage. Everyone wants more control and more choice, so startups have to promise that. Of course, the easiest way is "fake until you make it" aka "progressive decentralization". Every VC-funded web3 social startup did that, with predictable outcomes. Eventually people learned to avoid them, so the marketing strategy has changed and now we're in the era of "web3 but without blockchain". Same scams under a different name.

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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 05:33:27 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @Hyolobrika @anemone @georgia of course it’s not literally nobody
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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 05:33:28 JST Hyolobrika

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     @lain @anemone @georgia I care about nomadic identity. Especially when it doesn't require the assent of the previous admin.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 05:34:13 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @Hyolobrika yeah, that’s not an asset for most people who want to join blue sky
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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 05:34:14 JST Hyolobrika

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     @lain Plenty of left-wing people here to talk to. And it's more decentralised.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 05:38:54 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @Hyolobrika they don’t care about decentralization, they care about “twitter without nazis”, so getting drive-by replies by non-lefties is a downside to them
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     Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 05:38:55 JST Hyolobrika

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     @lain But there were left-wing servers here before blue sky even existed. So why wouldn't they just come here? Is it because they find it too hard to choose an instance? Is it because of fediblock? That makes sense actually.
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     vaartis running up that hill (vaartis@pl.kotobank.ch)'s status on Thursday, 31-Oct-2024 05:42:15 JST vaartis running up that hill

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     @Hyolobrika "grass was greener back then" the website. it's literally just twitter. it's not even actually comepletely decentralized because it still requires a central identity server (same as matrix lmao). If either one of these go down both matrix and bsky would break since nobody else is hosting these since neither made these federated. if i understand correctly how that works
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