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I don't care. Reality isn't reasonable. Stop trying to reason it. Go touch grass. Find a woman. Have a family. Stop running away into this retarded fantasy. In reality, it's sad.
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I mean.... be as reasonable as you want, but you still have to eat, breath, and shit.
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Its amazing that emotion has been ruled unfit for debate and research even though those without emotions have been found unable to make decisions effectively.
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My gut has always been more accurate than my reason. I just feel and go with it.
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Both work best in tandem much as a child needs a father and mother one is logical one is emotional.
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50-50 for me...
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My position is a bit different. I'm not a rationalist. I'm not some atomized homunculean monad with some virtual window into the world who is cognitively isolated from those around me.
I'm a phenomenologist. I exist in the world and across it and it exists in and through me. And based on my experience, I do not believe that people are atomized. I think phenomena like language, culture, morals and most subjects are learned through telepathy. Language is just part of the conveyance. Like a hand that points. The mind makes up the rest.
I also believe that we often hear the thoughts of others believing those thought originated from the "inside" due to the mistaken belief that all thoughts are somehow tagged with the name of the being from which they originated.
> "If your psychic, what I'm I thinking?" he asked me in the middle of the mall.
And this is what I'm referring to when I say I "rely on my gut." When I have feeling that something is about to occur or that I need to take some action, I don't analyze it. Instead, I assume it has an origin and conveys some meaning about the world. I also don't assume it originated in me. This gives a distinct advantage as compared to the rationalist who constantly questions himself.
> The world is a cup. I just fill it.
Now I will add that it's possible that some people are more "sensitive" than others, and this could explain why cretain groups of humans have difficulty learning on a very fundamental level. You point, but they literally can't see. They lack the ability to "understand what you're thinking," i.e. telepathy.
I will also add that another failing of the arm chair rationalist is their notion of truth and falsity. For me, all things are true, even false things. They are truly false, and thus, not false at all. Falsity is positional, if you believe something to be false, you need to move around it until you can see why it's not, i.e. all things are true if you look at them from the proper angle.
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I also go with my gut, but I've also got a highly developed moral sense I can rely on. That's a key thing. But where did that sense of awe in the face of deep virtue come from?
Unlike most people at most times, for whom a discussion like this is abstract, right now the discussion of moral development is extremely embodied, immediate, and relevant, since I'm raising a son who will have to navigate his own way through the world, and I have a limited amount of time to guide him. Maybe 10 years where he'll listen to me, then another 10 years where he won't be listening to me nearly as much, then he'll be on his own, assuming I'm even still alive by the end of that second 20 years.
If I assume that this little life in front of me will magically become moral because the universe has a clear objective morality that will be obvious, then I'm going to fail because that's untrue, and I'll raise a child who lacks virtue. Many people in my generation are doing just that. Immoral, illiterate kids who go on to fail at life. I could be long dead by the time this little boy reaches 40, he can't live in my basement until he's 40.
So you have to have a mental model for the idea that a new mind will need to build a model of virtue. Part of that is being a role model of virtuous behavior. Part of that is going out into the world and teaching virtue by doing things together and informing him how to behave in real-world circumstances and correcting him when he behaves in a manner that isn't virtuous. And part of that is telling the stories of our civilization which help the mind understand virtue by seeing it in different circumstances.
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>"If you're psychic, what am I thinking?"
That you're smarter than you actually are.
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I'm a dumb ass. I just read the minds of smart people. Get on my level. 😘
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@Humpleupagus @sj_zero @amerika @TheMadPirate @Dudebro @ninafromcanadaeh >Now I will add that it's possible that some people are more "sensitive" than others
The interesting thing I chew on with this is all the evidence points to there being a genetic component to this.
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So when I'm looking at a 30 foot tall tree, how exactly does it fit in my skull? And if it's purely in my skull, how can I say I'm looking at it outside of my skull and why doesn't my head explode? 👀 🧠
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The brains we have can be considered to have 3 different sections: the reptilian brain which is largely reactive and instinctual, the mammalian brain which works with emotions and memories, and the human brain that has higher thinking centers. Within the human brain is a powerful ability to model others minds, which in a sense is a form of telepathy, because we try to build models of those around us to understand them and see them. That isn't a rational process, it's subconscious and autonomous. It's paired with the broader function of our prefrontal cortex, which has the similarly amazing function of predicting the future, allowing us to predict and plan for future events.
To "fire on all cylinders" as a human with a big wrinkly brain then, you need to accept all modes of thinking. The rational brain is important because it can be used to reach places that are unintuitive through logic and reason, but the irrational brain or the subconscious brain is also equally or even more important because it can be used to places that are intuitively understandable but not necessarily rational or logical. That's why the paradox of understanding logically that the universe is meaningless, valueless, and senseless coexists with the understanding that there is nevertheless an intuitive meaning, value, and sense to the universe, and doesn't need to be rationalized. Both are true, but both are false. But depending on the situation, certain things are more true in that they are more useful to go with.
So while I agree in some ways, I'd suggest that you shouldn't make it an either/or situation.
If my view is correct, then your intuition does still need to be trained like your rational mind, and that's the benefit of society's ancient wisdom -- to help your intuition "kick in" and be able to use telepathy requires a base of intuitive knowledge about other people you don't automatically get, and that would be why some people are better "telepaths" than others.
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