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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 05:44:29 JST iced depresso
   developer politics are tiring I think a lot of devs just want to tinker cool shit. which is why they just hired someone else to manage the people.
   
   it's annoying that we have to basically employ counter extremists now
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 06:04:02 JST iced depresso

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     • Granola.Wad
     @geartoward I'm usually the biggest of shrug but it's becoming apparent that if you don't woodchip commies they will skin suit your shit
     
     I mean this in reference more to free desktop and nix though
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     Granola.Wad (geartoward@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 06:04:03 JST Granola.Wad

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat Why can't someone go one day without spitting dumb shit. YOU"RE A COMMUNITY MANAGER. NOT TO SPREAD YOUR FUCKING POLITICS TO A BUSINESS SETTING. I swear

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 06:41:36 JST iced depresso

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     • Granola.Wad
     @geartoward people have developed big negative reactions to any of this because of fdo, nix, and finally python.
     
     when core contributors are getting banned and censured for questioning power-mad despots (which is basically what the python DEI team fight was about) it basically feeds back and makes everyone more likely to shoot anyone on sight that exhibits any qualities related to the poison in their communities.
     
     i think godot was a mishandled joke (they could have just *not banned* everyone and everyone would have got on with their life) but there is enough precedent that you can no longer say moderates and christians are not being purged from online spaces
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     Granola.Wad (geartoward@makai.chaotic.ninja)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 06:41:37 JST Granola.Wad

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     @icedquinn@blob.cat Oh well because of the whole Godot stuff I thought you meant that

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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 06:49:17 JST iced depresso

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     • Granola.Wad
     @geartoward the despots tend to be very good optical magicians. they put up a lot of mirrors and wordplay to make you sound terrible for opposing them. like "oh it's just this common sense behavior code" and "well we want more people to be able to do x" and its like yes thats prima facie good ideas, but then comes the selective enforcement (its ok to graphically opine the death of *this* president because brain rot cope, but criticizing *ours* is hate speech censored nazi bar brain rot cope)
     
     in the case of nix they basically.. purged every conservative and vocal moderate from the project, and i think even the founder fucked off from the insanity (not sure) in python's case they banned one of the most foundational long standing members because he kept demanding them explain themselves. they wanted the power to fire anyone from the board without a board vote, because code of conduct or whatever, basically putting non-producing busybodies in sole control of the board (by way of being able to just line-item fire anyone they don't like forever.)
     
     now people are pattern recognition machines writ large. they will notice when every time people come in to town wearing green overalls that suddenly all the children start getting sick and dying. and since they cannot do anything to save their city after the fact, the feedback loop is to start shotgunning everyone who tries to approach the town wearing green overalls.
     
     its basically a case of real, actually bad events, which then get blanket denials thrown around rather than processing and addressing the issue, which trains people to have null faith that reasonable resolutions are possible, and a lot of collateral damage gets caught up in the process.
     
     its awful business and i hate it
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 06:54:22 JST iced depresso

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     • Granola.Wad
     @geartoward fwiw conservative idealogues are effectively driven by a perpetual fear that their way of life is going to be forcibly taken from them, so the more people forcibly take from them (as opposed to gently demonstrating that XYZ is not something that needs to be feared) the more they will lock ranks and everybody loses.
     
     coexistence is very possible and has been done (the 90s) but we're in a time right now where people are being shitheels with complete disregard to collateral damage and its balkanizing people harder because of it
     
     /ted talk, etc