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   silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 01:57:54 JST silverwizard

   Zscaler has a hard dependency on systemd on linux

   This causes so many issues, any minor change in modules and defaults causes my user's computers to lock up and completely lose internet. A basic local vpn (which is all zscaler is) is trivial to implement without systemd.

   By depending on systemd, they are making my life worse as an admin, for no gain.

   I don't get the systemd cult.

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 04:09:17 JST silverwizard

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     • furicle
     @furicle they are improperly using networking. They are using a series of different tools to create the network pipeline, rather than a traditional route change. A network tunnel *shouldn't need* to touch system internals and break the network - it should just make a tunnel.
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     furicle (furicle@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 04:09:20 JST furicle

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     @silverwizard I don't get how that's systemd fault? It doesn't lock up systems....

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     furicle (furicle@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 04:57:02 JST furicle

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     @silverwizard it's running as a service or daemon right? So you need a system that controls your daemons....

     Like a firewall, or any other service.

     How's the tunnel know when to come up if something doesn't tell it?

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     silverwizard (silverwizard@convenient.email)'s status on Tuesday, 01-Oct-2024 04:57:02 JST silverwizard

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     • furicle
     @furicle what? What do you mean?! it's just a tunnel. Use a sensible init system