Conversation
Notices
-
Embed this notice
really need to talk to a medical researcher about the pharmacokinetics of estrodial and progesterone. I'm curious about the fat-solubility of these two as it relates to ingestion via the water supply.
I'm wondering if people may be getting micro or even macro doses of hormone therapy triggered by weight loss, leading to psychological changes
- BowserNoodle ☦️ repeated this.
-
Embed this notice
@binkle the feminizing agents were in the plastic runoff, if i remember
-
Embed this notice
@binkle no but its why people made a big deal out of BPA or something
-
Embed this notice
@icedquinn do you recall what the agents were specifically? I'm curious about their relation to weight loss as a catalyst for unexpected dosing
-
Embed this notice
something like:
woman takes birth control -> excess filtered out via urine -> sewage system -> reprocessed into drinking water -> drank by people -> compound build up in fat storage -> weight loss burns fat releasing them back into blood stream -> psychological changes
it would help to explain both lower fertility rates and other more extreme sexual behaviors
-
Embed this notice
Metabolism and pharmacokinetics are both stupidly complicated, but this honestly does sound very plausible
-
Embed this notice
@abner no need to apologize - yes that was exactly what I was thinking, with more mild forms of weight loss causing micro dosing (sudden onset veganism)
-
Embed this notice
Sorry didn't see you already posted this
-
Embed this notice
@binkle I will look into this for you. This exact effect has been observed with people who quit smoking weed and lose weight. THC is fat soluble, so sometimes they'll have it in their system for weeks or longer if they're a chronic (heh) user.
-
Embed this notice
@binkle The answer is yes. You'd get a spike in serum estrogen levels as fat is used. Same for xenoestrogens. Fat itself is an estrogen producer though, so it would be a transient phase ultimately leading to less estrogen. The most impactful time for this IMO would be early puberty where a lot of boys out on weight before leaning out. If they're eating shitty foods and exposed to a lot of xenoestrogens or even real estrogen from environmentals, they'll shed a lot of fat (hopefully) and possibly flush that into their system during that same time. I don't know how impactful that actually is, but it might explain the rise in gyno and pseudogyno. We might need some more Peatpilled bros to correct me. @Xenophon any ideas?
-
Embed this notice
I'm not read up on a lot of literature related to this. I did know that fat stores a variety of different toxins which are released as people lose weight, but i'd be skeptical to link this to low birthrates. The idea that you're drinking womens hormones after an extensive (and often multi-tiered via personal filters) filtration system is a tad far fetched. The burden of proof is definitely on claimant.
As a tangential example, people have made a big deal out of the hormones you ingest from red meat (cows are probably on tren if we're being honest) and that hasn't manifested in any sort of uptick in test levels in the general public. And I'd wager the odds are much greater with direct meat ingestion vs drinking water.
Honestly you could probably exclusively drink egirl piss and not notice anything. Not to mention excess test aromatizes into estrogen anyway, but yeah...
-
Embed this notice
@Xenophon @binkle >idea that you're drinking womens hormones after an extensive (and often multi-tiered via personal filters) filtration system is a tad far fetched.
Some of the fancy fridge filters actually advertise that they remove pharmacological compounds. I believe there were a few studies that suggested this was a thing for birth control in municipal water supplies, but that would be more likely in a place with less turnover (idk the terminology) and more direct recycling of wastewater straight to drinking water.