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   ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2024 23:34:38 JST ロミンちゃん
   is there any reason people hate systemd other than "poettering bad" or am i missing something
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2024 23:43:00 JST 御園はくい

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     @romin large black box instead of many small programs
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2024 23:43:00 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @hakui oh like the linux kernel :l_heh:
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2024 23:56:10 JST 御園はくい

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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2024 23:57:24 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @hakui rinukkusumasite omedetou
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     御園はくい (hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 00:13:19 JST 御園はくい

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     r (r@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 01:17:56 JST r

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     @romin There are some valid criticism about its design and scope. There were some controversies about how quickly it was adopted by most of the GNU distros, which can be said for a lot of Red Hat software. I don't really blame the distro maintainers for it though, it does make their life easier by streamlining a lot of the things.
     But that doesn't mean all the complaints are valid. I've seen Mac users talking about how bad systemd is. It's not really the kind of software that normal users interact with directly, except for the things like writing service files for your own software. But anyone who says SysV style init scripts are better is completely wrong, BSD's rc.subr makes it much, much better, but still requires weird hacks in some cases. People also complain about the scope of systemd, but aren't bothered as much by the bloat in their browser, compiler, kernel or even the bootloader.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 01:21:00 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @r it was a shitpost but I appreciate your serious unbiased response :l_ok:
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     THOT POLICE (s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 01:35:24 JST THOT POLICE

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     @romin once upon a time, init was a bunch of bash scripts in a directory
     
     now we have systemd, a huge monolithic program that "does it all". It requires its own scripting syntax now, thanks a lot for making me teach this to pajeets
     
     one of the first things that happened when systemd came out was that some faggot retard put a DNS resolver in it, because he was trying to do something retarded with the network before networking was up
     
     the dns resolver had a remote code execution vulnerability and many people got owned
     
     there was never supposed to be a dns resolution during init. ever. By design
     
     this is just one of a thousand similar problems
     
     and nothing was wrong with init. Nothing
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 26-Mar-2024 01:37:58 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @s8n I think dbus is a worse problem, you can at least go back to sane init systems