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   Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 19:49:30 JST Iska

   I only now learned that macos:
   1. wants devs to pay fees for all programs, even when you're releasing it on steam and never touched xcode
   2. doesn't let you run any non-apple-approved app
   
   How do iSlaves keep putting up with all this?

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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 19:49:27 JST 翠星石

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     @iska The reason they keep putting up with it is the reason they are iSlaves.
     
     What's worse is ios, as you can't even install 3rd party software and the proprietary workaround requires macos and more payments and the installed software only works for 30(?) days and then you need to repeat the same process.
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 19:50:06 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @iska you can run any app, it's the same system as in windows these days, if it's signed with a registered key it will just run, if not you have to override.
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     ロミンちゃん (romin@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 19:51:30 JST ロミンちゃん

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     @iska it's for your own security
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 19:53:45 JST 翠星石

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     • Mario 🔒
     @iska @mario I can confirm that apple does things like remove checkboxes.
     
     Even if the "allow" checkboxes are there, apple often sabotages them to make sure they don't work.
     
     The last time I had the misfortune of using a macbook I tried to install homebrew (so I could at least get the free software needed for the task installed) and I did have the root password, but the "allow" install button did not work, nor the online workarounds where you use the accessibility API to press the button (it seems that apple intentionally made the button fail to work, but neglected to realize that the sabotage didn't apply to the accessibility API, but of course fixed that as soon as they realized).
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     Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 19:53:47 JST Iska

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     • Mario 🔒
     • Eric Zhang 2: Episode 1

     @mario@don.tbully.me apparently they removed that checkbox t. @eric@pl.starnix.network

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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 19:53:48 JST Mario 🔒

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     @iska also this is somewhat missleading. you can check a box that allows running unsigned executables. I think that's not too far off of chmod +x
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     Mer's pizza Mer's world :blobcatgooglytrash: (mer@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:03:30 JST Mer's pizza Mer's world :blobcatgooglytrash:

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     • Mario 🔒
     • Gnarley Boot
     @gnarley_boot @iska @mario Atlantis is just an Ys colony. Literal backwater.
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     Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:03:31 JST Gnarley Boot

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     • Mario 🔒
     @mario @iska
     
     Name the real location of the historical nation of Atlantis and it's capitol hubs and I will let you live...
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:03:32 JST Mario 🔒

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     • Gnarley Boot
     @gnarley_boot @iska >doesn't know about my funny instance names
     :neocat_woozy:
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     Gnarley Boot (gnarley_boot@norwoodzero.net)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:03:33 JST Gnarley Boot

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     • Mario 🔒
     @mario @iska
     
     Is your domain really don.tbully.me?? Is this bait?
     
     You're lucky I respect iska lmao....
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:03:34 JST Mario 🔒

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     @iska can't disagree with that :blobcatgiggle2:
     having an actual package manager with trusted maintainers and repo mirrors and (optional) package signing is the best way of software distribution I know
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     Iska (iska@catposter.club)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:03:35 JST Iska

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     • Mario 🔒

     @mario@don.tbully.me >going through more hoops than it takes to install GNU/Linux

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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:03:37 JST Mario 🔒

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     @iska by using homebrew :blobcatthinksmart:
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     Mer's pizza Mer's world :blobcatgooglytrash: (mer@cdrom.tokyo)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:07:38 JST Mer's pizza Mer's world :blobcatgooglytrash:

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     • Gnarley Boot
     @mario @iska @gnarley_boot no it's just out in the sticks (no,, not the styx)
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:07:39 JST Mario 🔒

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     • Mer's pizza Mer's world :blobcatgooglytrash:
     • Gnarley Boot
     @mer @iska @gnarley_boot is backwater like the backrooms but just underwater? :think_nyan:
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:08:52 JST 翠星石

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     • Mario 🔒
     @mario >was running it in QEMU
     Yes, versions with some of the sabotage patched out may work better (I'm pretty sure macos will refuse to run in a VM unless the sabotage part is disabled).
     
     >find obscurish FOSS like betterbird, schildichat and freetube within homebrew
     Those are hardly obscure if I can find them in a search engine.
     
     Freetube is licensed under the AGPLv3 (unclear of -only or -or-later), which makes it free software and not "open source".
     
     >I would be able to migrate my setup to MacOS without anything missing really.
     You would be missing freedom, which to me is the most important thing.
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     Mario 🔒 (mario@don.tbully.me)'s status on Monday, 05-Feb-2024 20:08:53 JST Mario 🔒

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki @iska my only recent MacOS experience was running it in QEMU and that went reasonably well. I was really surprised to even find obscurish FOSS like betterbird, schildichat and freetube within homebrew. My conclusion was that I would be able to migrate my setup to MacOS without anything missing really.
     But since MacOS is confirmed spyware i'll stay with auditable operating systems :blobcatuwu: