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?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:39 JST ?Hidden?

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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:22 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  That the clocks moved at different rates also doesn't prove that time moved at different rates. It only proves that matter is affected by velocity. Calling that effect "time" is an operational definition at best.
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:23 JST shortstories
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  Supposedly clocks moving at fast speeds relative to one another that started at the same time before they started moving relative to one another will give different results although I have never tested that
  But that does not prove Einstein's theory because other theories also give that result
  Self contrafictions disprove Einstein's theory
  Those who point out Einstein's contradictions are called not smart or antisemitic
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:24 JST shortstories
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  Superstition in Science 3: Relativity Demystified
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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxn9KGH5P1s
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:25 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @shortstories @gav @hidden @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika you will need to observing an going at least .5c to observe a noticeable length contraction.
  And you will need a video camera of at least 1/(.5c) fps to observe it.
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:25 JST shortstories
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  1 / 0.5c = time / length
  time / length frames per second makes no sense
  This might be some number of seconds per meter per second
  or in other words a camera rate of per meter
  like some number of meters to the negative one power
  Your units are wrong
  Rethink and or rewrite what you are trying to say
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:26 JST shortstories
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  In physics, an object, like your pants, can shrink when you put them in the dryer. But the dryer can NEVER shrink the “length” of your pants. Length is a static qualitative property that can neither shrink nor expand.....no way in Hell.
  https://discover.hubpages.com/education/Relativity-Length-Contraction-is-a-FRAUD
  Relativity Length Contraction is a Fraud by Fatfist
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:27 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @shortstories @dicey @gav @hidden @Leaflord @Hyolobrika Yes and No. Lorentz did indeed derived the Lorentz transformation, but in the context of the Aether Luminipherous theory, so it maintained that it existed a privileged reference frame for light, Einstein throw away all that stating that the laws of nature must be the same for all reference frames. That's why Einstein had to state that light had a constant value ( i.e. light particles are massless ) which was the same for all reference frames.
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:28 JST shortstories
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  In his History of the theories of ether and electricity from 1953, E. T. Whittaker claimed that relativity is the creation of Poincaré and Lorentz and attributed to Einstein's papers only little importance
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativity_priority_dispute
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:29 JST shortstories
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  "Albert Einstein presented the theories of special relativity and general relativity in publications that either contained no formal references to previous literature, or referred only to a small number of his predecessors"
  "Subsequently, claims have been put forward about both theories, asserting that they were formulated, either wholly or in part, by others before Einstein"
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    Relativity priority dispute
    
    Albert Einstein presented the theories of special relativity and general relativity in publications that either contained no formal references to previous literature, or referred only to a small number of his predecessors for fundamental results on which he based his theories, most notably to the work of Henri Poincaré and Hendrik Lorentz for special relativity, and to the work of David Hilbert, Carl F. Gauss, Bernhard Riemann, and Ernst Mach for general relativity. Subsequently, claims have been put forward about both theories, asserting that they were formulated, either wholly or in part, by others before Einstein. At issue is the extent to which Einstein and various other individuals should be credited for the formulation of these theories, based on priority considerations. Various scholars have questioned aspects of the work of Einstein, Poincaré, and Lorentz leading up to the theories’ publication in 1905. Questions raised by these scholars include asking to what degree Einstein was familiar with Poincaré's work, whether Einstein was familiar with Lorentz's 1904 paper or a review of it, and how closely Einstein followed other physicists at the time. It is known that...
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:30 JST gav
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  @dicey @hidden @Leaflord @Hyolobrika you havent heard he was a fraud, or about his not so great personal relations?
  
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  dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:30 JST dicey
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  I heard it from one person just now. The great individual going under the name of gav
  
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  dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:32 JST dicey
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  Einstein was a jew. I haven't heard anyone hating him, it would be strange. It's really not about who you are but what people do.
  
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  Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:33 JST Hyolobrika
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  >anti-semitism with plausible deniability
  The irony
  
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  ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:34 JST ?Hidden?
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  @dicey @Leaflord Thank you Dicey. I am glad that my anti-semitism with plausible deniability can bring some SENSE to this two bit social network
  
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  dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:35 JST dicey
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  You really make being on here worthwhile. Just by your presence. You add a certain sensibility to the experience of being here everyday. I'm sure @Leaflord agrees
  
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  dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:36 JST dicey
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  Well I can tell you it's day and night internally in my head. I awake. And think much quicker. My senses return.
  
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  ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:36 JST ?Hidden?
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  @dicey That's good, benzos are a savage and evil drug
  
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  dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:37 JST dicey
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  By the way, not to be creepy, but can you tell a difference when I don't take my benzodiazepines medication in how I express myself from the usual benzo sedated conversations I have. I just feel completely different without that medication.
  
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  ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:37 JST ?Hidden?
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  @dicey I don't spend enough time on fedi to get a proper read on the people here really, so I don't think so.
  
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  ?Hidden? (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:38 JST ?Hidden?
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  @dicey Incredible guitar playing damn
  
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  dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 13:02:39 JST dicey
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  I really like this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRS1b4R10CI
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  Nigbot (nice-nigger@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:03 JST Nigbot
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  finna rape yall :partyblob_spaz:
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:04 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika Relativism would be stating that the laws of physics are different for different observer i.e. that there is a privileged frame of reference in which, for example, the velocity of light in vaccum has a different value.
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:04 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika frames of refrence dont exist, they do not have privilegedness, real objects do real things to eachother and are identical wherever you are, e.g. they are objective not subjective at no pont does """time""" slow down for anything from any frame of refrence
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:05 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika no you are
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:06 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @shortstories @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika Gav is spouting nihilist and postmodernist blabblering bullshit about "there is no such thing as truth", "there is no such thing as objective reality", or "everything is relative", etc. The kinda of stupid things the Continental Philosophers charlatans ( I am being redundant there ) say all the time.
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:07 JST shortstories
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  Gav is right
  No common person owns these really fast objects to prove it
  People just trust by faith the stories about atomic clocks in super fast planes having different times than the ones stationary relative to the earth
  All the so called experiments use equipment that the common person can not afford and does not have access to
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:08 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika time is a thing, it has no frame it as no traits, things do not and can not experience different times, nor do either of these examples exist, nor is their anything to indicate that c is an actual impedance to acceleration, its entirely presumptive, things for some reason happen to never reach that speed
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:08 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika Please, postmodernists and nihilists , refrain yourselves from this discussion.
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:09 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @shortstories @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @dicey @Hyolobrika In other words, in both situations the car hits the wall, but they do it at different "times", one is the time observed by the driver and the other is the time observed by the audience.
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:10 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @Humpleupagus @gav @hidden @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika The main problem with Relativity is that it is a non-local theory whereas Quatum Mechanics is a local theory, therefore there is a fundamental clash between the two theories that makes it really hard to unify them into a cohesive theory.
  
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  shortstories@merovingian.club's status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:23:10 JST shortstories
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  A car is moving a 0.99 times the speed of light relative to the ground on the race track & the finish line
  A wall is a certain distance past the finish line
  When the center of the car touches the finish line for both reference frames
  From one reference frame the car hits the wall
  From the other reference frame the car does not hit the wall
  For a certain car length and wall distance from the finish line
  So contradictory
  
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  ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:02 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??
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  Something something.... India doesn't have a theory of history. If you as a curry nigger about what happened in the past, they just make shit up and believe it true. — Hagel
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:03 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika "you havent read hagel"
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:04 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika sophistry, non testable, creating equations, saying theytr correct and insisting their errors are objective
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:04 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika In fact, I would say that you either never read Karl Popper or if you did, you never understood how Critical Rationalism works at all.
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:05 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika "In both situations the car will hit the wall, the only difference is when" explain how this is not entirely meaningless
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:05 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika That's the magic of the light cone and space-time coordinates.
  
  It gets even crazier with wormholes though.
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:06 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika yes, time doesnt change it is a measure
  
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika Well, x, y, z and ct are the coordinates, but usually it is used what it is called "natural coordinates" in which you rescale everything so as to make c = 1.
  
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika Objective truth and objective reality exists independent of the perception of the observer.
  
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika I was talking about the rejection of objective truth and objective reality.
  
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika assertion of objective truth and objective reality
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 14:31:09 JST gav
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  @TheMadPirate @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika relativism is literally post modern, nor does anything i saaid have to do with either of those things whatsoever
  
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  Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker (themadpirate@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:02:54 JST Cuddly Lovely Sassy Motherfucker
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  @gav @hidden @Humpleupagus @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika Hegel says black and white can be synthesized into grey , what kind of grey ? people asks, Hegel says another grey can be synthesized from grey and either white or black, and so on and so forth til you reach either white or black, which again can be synthesized into a gray and the whole cycle starts again.
  
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  gav (gav@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 16-Dec-2023 17:02:55 JST gav
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  @Humpleupagus @hidden @TheMadPirate @Leaflord @shortstories @dicey @Hyolobrika hagel sais to his wife as she gives him curry, she hates him, he hates himself
  
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