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   Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 01:31:50 JST Kirino Kousaka

   • Lina Inver?e
   • Mitch Conner

   Already asked, you’re the third person to suggest them :p

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 01:31:50 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch >them
     who the fuck is they, i'm one person
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:26:59 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch >gender-neutral
     it literally sounds more awkward when you refer to a single person as "they" when there's no such custom as to refer to someone you respect as "they" in english
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:27:00 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     “They/them/their is acceptable in limited cases as a singular and-or gender-neutral pronoun, when alternative wording is overly awkward or clumsy”

     To me, “Them” sounds better in this context than “him”.

     If I were to phrase it “to have suggested -“ I would have used “him” instead.

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:31:13 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch >There is quite literally “custom” (?) to refer to someone as “they” or them” - if you are unaware of the gender is one example - or, as I said, if alternatives are clumsy.
     that is as valid as men wearing dresses and calling themselves female
     >“suggest him” sounds weird, “suggest them” doesn’t.
     it doesn't
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:31:14 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     I’ll make it easier, as English isn’t your first language and your comprehension needs work.

     “when alternative wording is overly awkward or clumsy”.

     There is quite literally “custom” (?) to refer to someone as “they” or them” - if you are unaware of the gender is one example - or, as I said, if alternatives are clumsy.

     “suggest him” sounds weird, “suggest them” doesn’t.

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:35:09 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch because normal people don't need "they/them" unless referring to more than one person
     well it's none of my business if you love trannies really
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:35:11 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     I’m enjoying how overly annoyed you’re getting at me calling you “them”, because, in your head, you have intertwined it so much with troon shit that you can’t even comprehend that using it as a singular/gender neutral goes back (quite literally) decades.

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:38:27 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • pomstan
     • Mitch Conner
     @pomstan @Kirino @olmitch gay reference ngl
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     pomstan (pomstan@xn--p1abe3d.xn--80asehdb)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:38:29 JST pomstan

     in reply to

     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     @lina @Kirino @olmitch he loves you

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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:42:46 JST Kirino Kousaka

     in reply to

     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     Have you considered that I’m going to get the same mirth at your annoyance of being called “them” that I get from misgendering troons? Because that’s totally what I’m going to do now.

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:42:46 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch well then i'll just hope nobody helps you
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:46:18 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     Oh, on the phone call thing? I’ve pretty much lost interest, just wanted to confirm a theory but I only put like an hour’s investigation into it so I’m fine either way :P

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:46:18 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch sounds like you're just trying to save face
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:48:40 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     Projection, thy name is Lina.

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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:48:40 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch whatever you say, i'm not paying rent though
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     Lina Inver?e (lina@eientei.org)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:50:32 JST Lina Inver?e

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     • Mitch Conner
     @Kirino @olmitch suits my purposes
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     Kirino Kousaka (kirino@seal.cafe)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Nov-2023 05:50:33 JST Kirino Kousaka

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     • Lina Inver?e
     • Mitch Conner

     It’s alright, I’ll just tell people “Yeah, they didn’t pay rent so I kicked them out.”