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   anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 16:29:15 JST anime graf mays ?️?
   >the US DOD has 14 /8s
   >thats 234,881,024 IPs
   you want to fix your IPv4 exhaustion start there.
   
   why does FORD need a /8?
   why do we need 16.7 MILLION loopback IPs?
   
   en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assigned_/8_IPv4_address_blocks
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 16:29:14 JST 翠星石

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     @graf >you want to fix your IPv4 exhaustion start there.
     If you want to fix your IPv4 exhaustion, upgrade to IPv6 like you should have done 20 years ago.
     
     Even if 14 /8's were released for reallocation, those will run out too in just a few years.
     
     Meanwhile, it's a bit hard to exhaust 2^128 (340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456) IP's even with 2^64 (18,446,744,073,709,551,616) addresses per network segment.
     
     >why do we need 16.7 MILLION loopback IPs?
     Since it was quite difficult to semi-cleanly allow for more than one loopback IP without allocating it as a /8.
     
     It would be futile to try to reallocate 127.0.0.0/8, as huge amounts of software will break and most routers will drop all packets from that address range - it would be far easier to just enable IPv6 on all computers.
     
     IPv6 meanwhile only has 1 loopback address (::1), as the designers knew that loopback is only for temporary testing and you should use unix sockets instead of IP if you want multiple local daemons to talk to each other.
     
     
     Every single recommendation I've read as to how to solve IPv4 address exhaustion either will only have a temporary effect or would be far more difficult than just enabling IPv6.
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     anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 16:58:54 JST anime graf mays ?️?

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     @Suiseiseki ipv6 is fucking gay and i will not listen to any argument against it. there's no fucking reason my fridge needs a billion IP addresses. fuck off
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 16:58:54 JST 翠星石

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     @graf I believe you're deflecting something.
     
     IPv6 is what IPv4 was intended to be, but of course you refuse to accept that.
     
     I quite enjoy IPv6 as I can plug a computer in and it just works unlike IPv4
     
     The fridge can get one or as many IP addresses as it needs from the router via SLAAC.
     
     GNU/Fridge needs IPv6 so its internet connection is end-to-end and not NAT brokenness.
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     Monsignor_DickFace (monsignor_dickface@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 19:46:14 JST Monsignor_DickFace

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     • 翠星石
     @Suiseiseki @graf Why does your fridge need an address at all?
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     翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 17-Aug-2023 19:46:14 JST 翠星石

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     • Monsignor_DickFace
     @Monsignor_DickFace So you can run GNU emacs on GNU/Fridge and use TRAMP to edit files on other computers.