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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:32:05 JST NEETzsche Wagies really need to stick up for themselves more -
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AlabasterBrick ?☠️ (alabasterbrick@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:32:04 JST AlabasterBrick ?☠️ I'd tell Gary the fairy, "I won't be 'on call' unless you pay me on call pay nigga". -
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penguin (penguin@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:14 JST penguin ??? -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:15 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? Lawyers do code though in their own way, and there are parts of that code that are fairly static and have been so for a very long time. What's a property line? What's an encroachment? What's an easement or a reciprocal servitude, etc.? What's the purpose of a probate? It's just that the process of programming isn't as direct as throwing it on a machine, because the human psyche doesn't come with a techinical manual explaining the features. And there are bad coders and sometimes programs have bugs. -
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FED Enjoyer (red_hat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:15 JST FED Enjoyer Ur a bug. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:16 JST NEETzsche I got my duh gree from an engineering school but in my experience engineers/techies/scientists who actually do their job get along just fine with tradies and technicians who don’t know all the “theory” but keep the machines running with all their little cantrips and quick fixes, and it’s in no small part because both sides of that coin have to solve actual problems, in reality. I don’t want to get too into the details of my work for fear of doxing but I don’t have any problems with the grunt workers and I get along just fine with the other techies, but the business niggers are the ones who piss all of us off.
And it’s not because they get paid more or have more authority, either. Actually, they get paid less and have less authority. They’re just annoying people with no perspective. Grunt driving truck has perspective. Guy fiddling with code to make it arrive at the right conclusions or give the grunt driving truck the answers he needs to do his job has perspective. Guy who files paperwork does not have perspective. It’s a bullshit job that, at best, is created to satisfy government bureaucracy.
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Chet (chet@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:17 JST Chet I agree, worked in the oil and gas industry and this was common place with men doing the actual work. At some points in the prejob conference calls it would bleed over and the people that had never been in the field didn't know what to do. I would banter back and forth with them, I don't give a shit.
I got called out to be more professional with clients. I asked if this was an internal decision or an external decision. It was internal and I told them all to fuck off. Once most understood I was there to get shit done, everyone thought I was great, perhaps a bit gruff, but fun to work with and productive. The "professionals" hated it because I didn't fit their mold with a fucking degree. -
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Chet (chet@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:18 JST Chet I enjoy this kind of work the most. Get it done, random bullshiting, more work. -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:18 JST NEETzsche @Chet You see it more in work that's tied to material reality more. In lines of work where you are dealing with natural consequences rather than social ones. Think any kind of technical work, academic science (that isn't about pronouns etc), construction, engineering, manufacturing, farming, etc. Lines of work where your output either functions correctly or it doesn't and social perceptions don't decide that.
This is partly why I didn't want to go into a profession like law. No offense or disrespect to lawyers intended, but you're dealing with man's law if you go into law, and all of man's law is ultimately made up, it's contrived, it's fake. This makes the profession more prone to corruption.
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:19 JST NEETzsche I haven’t made that mistake but I don’t think it would matter and here’s why:
I’m a techie for a living so our professional correspondence is filled with memes and occasionally racial slurs. But it’s also filled with exchanges during weird hours. So instead of this professionalspeak you might expect out of, say, a law firm, where you can’t say something impolite, but there’s also none of this oven middle class work-life balance concept, we have exchanges like this at 2am:
<Tech Lead> Someone review this code Jim pushed <Sam> Looks good to me, it's merged <Tech Lead> Based. *anime_girl_sipping_soda.jpg* <Jim> Anybody play my Doom WAD yet? -
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NEETzsche (neetzsche@iddqd.social)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:20 JST NEETzsche I’m a WFH salary guy so I’m exempt from all this, unfortunately. I’m basically their nigger, or so they wish. In reality my work chat is one of about ten that I leave open at all times, fedi being another one. :anintellectual:
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:20 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? Have you ever posted in the wrong chat? I have. It's usually followed by "I saw this and I was so disgusted that I had to show you. Who make memes like this? It's foul." -
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?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:21 JST ?? Humpleupagus ?? I'm pretty sure that in California that would put a wagie on the clock because the employer is controlling the "non-work" activity. ? -
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Chet (chet@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 04:44:21 JST Chet On call, usually get 8 hours pay. Plus overtime if they have to come in to do work. It's easy money if someone is willing to actually be on call. Downside is, you are on call all 24 hours of the day.
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