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   djsumdog (djsumdog@djsumdog.com)'s status on Tuesday, 19-Nov-2024 11:19:32 JST djsumdog

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   yea but in the case of CO2 in the atmosphere, it really is insignificant. It's one of the reasons I didn't continue work in academia because my background was in environmental sensor research and I knew I'd constantly be at ends with everyone in my field.

   None of these predictions have come true: https://extinctionclock.org/

   and I've dug into several climate change papers and found stuff similar to what this one author found: https://mathewaldred.substack.com/p/do-most-people-who-believe-climate

   The reality is, the lithium, cobalt, thorium and other rare earth material we're mining for Li-ion cells is orders of magnitude worse than the strip mining and mountain top remove used to get at coal ... and we still need the coal anyway, because all those EVs are the most advanced coal powered cars in the world.

   Even if it is more efficient with the coal to EV battery vs petrol (this is debatable), there's 100s of barrels of oil in the tires, vinyl, plastic and trim of those cars. All of the EV material is mined with massive dump trucks and excavators that need hydrocarbons. No amount of solar or wind is going to power a mining facility.

   If you started to balance all the energy put into the "green" economy, the amount of environmental damage from using petrol would be far far less than the absolutely insane mount of energy that goes into solar and wind shit.