how many people ended up dead as a direct consequence of the spread of nazifascistic thoughts, then words, then attitudes, then actions<\/p>
In that case you're not arguing that attitudes, or words, are violence, you're arguing that actions are violence. Attitudes are not the same thing as words, and neither attitudes nor words are the same as actions. And the two former ones do not automatically lead to the latter, or even reliably so. And even if A did lead to B, which led to C, that would still not mean that A=C. <\/p>
Words mean things and separation of concepts is important. Suggesting that because some thoughts might be aired as words, and someone might take damaging action based on those words, it follows that the thoughts themselves \"are violence\" or \"constitute violence\", damages that separation.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/c9850647-c385-4291-8169-cc0bd156ab03","object":{"id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/c9850647-c385-4291-8169-cc0bd156ab03","objectType":"note","content":"@lxo<\/a> @taylan<\/a> @light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> how many people ended up dead as a direct consequence of the spread of nazifascistic thoughts, then words, then attitudes, then actions<\/p> In that case you're not arguing that attitudes, or words, are violence, you're arguing that actions are violence. Attitudes are not the same thing as words, and neither attitudes nor words are the same as actions. And the two former ones do not automatically lead to the latter, or even reliably so. And even if A did lead to B, which led to C, that would still not mean that A=C. <\/p> Words mean things and separation of concepts is important. Suggesting that because some thoughts might be aired as words, and someone might take damaging action based on those words, it follows that the thoughts themselves \"are violence\" or \"constitute violence\", damages that separation.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/c9850647-c385-4291-8169-cc0bd156ab03","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780168804.228670","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780168804.228670"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12679540","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-30T23:50:10+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/c9850647-c385-4291-8169-cc0bd156ab03"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-original-tmp20250127072808.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":160,"height":160},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-48-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-24-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"323065"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca"}},"content":"no, that's not what I'm arguing. I'm just being autistic and distinguishing between the argument per se and the implications thereof. encompasses an injurious attitude of dehumanization, of disrespect, that is violence. it's the attitude, not the argument. <\/p> Pardon me for inserting myself here, but are you arguing that words aren't violence, but attitudes, i.e. thoughts, are? <\/p> Because frankly, that would be even more absurd. <\/p> As for the \"other kinds of harms and injuries\" being \"even more hurtful and damaging\", I'm going to do as the Aussies and go yeah, nah. To a great extent because I've never managed to kill anyone or put them into hospital by saying bad things, or having injurious or disrespecting attitudes towards them. And that's not for the lack of trying.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/625bf398-4292-44e1-8371-0ade818f0545","object":{"id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/625bf398-4292-44e1-8371-0ade818f0545","objectType":"note","content":"@lxo<\/a> @light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @taylan<\/a> encompasses an injurious attitude of dehumanization, of disrespect, that is violence. it's the attitude, not the argument. <\/p> Pardon me for inserting myself here, but are you arguing that words aren't violence, but attitudes, i.e. thoughts, are? <\/p> Because frankly, that would be even more absurd. <\/p> As for the \"other kinds of harms and injuries\" being \"even more hurtful and damaging\", I'm going to do as the Aussies and go yeah, nah. To a great extent because I've never managed to kill anyone or put them into hospital by saying bad things, or having injurious or disrespecting attitudes towards them. And that's not for the lack of trying.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/625bf398-4292-44e1-8371-0ade818f0545","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780164723.946922","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780164723.946922"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12678508","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-30T19:33:49+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/objects\/625bf398-4292-44e1-8371-0ade818f0545"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan","displayName":"Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-original-tmp20241130091611.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":983,"height":983},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-96-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-48-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-24-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"5095"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-96-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"#fedi22 #FreeSoftware #Programming #ProgrammingLanguages #Scheme #Emacs #Politics #Ethics #Philosophy #Feminism","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"taylan","displayName":"Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)","note":"#fedi22 #FreeSoftware #Programming #ProgrammingLanguages #Scheme #Emacs #Politics #Ethics #Philosophy #Feminism"}},"content":"@lxo<\/a> @light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> @taylan<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @lxo<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> I don't think he's being misogynistic. He means society is neurotic, not women specifically.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116663329779401153","object":{"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116663329779401153","objectType":"note","content":" @taylan<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @lxo<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> I don't think he's being misogynistic. He means society is neurotic, not women specifically.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12678397","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/26d41ea4-a283-4abf-b42f-2bbbb24dd3c3","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/26d41ea4-a283-4abf-b42f-2bbbb24dd3c3"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12678397","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-30T18:32:34+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12678397"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-original-tmp20250127072808.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":160,"height":160},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-48-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-24-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"323065"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca"}},"content":"I'd be extremely surprised if anyone were to disagree with a claim that our contemporary societies make people neurotic \ud83d\ude42 @lxo<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @taylan<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> I don't think arguments should be considered to be violence. If a particular argument or viewpoint causes psychological injury to one person, it doesn't follow that it will hurt everyone's feelings. Therefore IMO it doesn't make sense to morally condemn certain views that don't directly promote (physical) violence. @lxo<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @taylan<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> I don't think arguments should be considered to be violence. If a particular argument or viewpoint causes psychological injury to one person, it doesn't follow that it will hurt everyone's feelings. Therefore IMO it doesn't make sense to morally condemn certain views that don't directly promote (physical) violence. @lxo<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @taylan<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> How is it \"violent\"? What do you understand by \"violence\"?<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116657219601251201","object":{"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116657219601251201","objectType":"note","content":" @lxo<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @taylan<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> How is it \"violent\"? What do you understand by \"violence\"?<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/noc.social\/@light\/116657219601251201","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780011498.132191","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12669310"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12673084","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-29T18:11:15+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/noc.social\/@light\/116657219601251201"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-original-tmp20250127072808.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":160,"height":160},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-48-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-24-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"323065"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca"}},"content":"violence has to do with causing injury or aggression, often by forceful and sudden means. tangent: in my mind, I tend to conceive of violence as associated with willful actions, but I've seen the term used to refer to destruction caused by storms and injuries from car accidents, and it feels odd to me but I've learned to deal with it. @taylan<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @lxo<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a> @taylan<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @lxo<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a>
you might be surprised by how many people ended up dead as a direct consequence of the spread of nazifascistic thoughts, then words, then attitudes, then actions
CC: @taylan@feministwiki.org<\/a> @light@noc.social<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a>
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you might be surprised by how many people ended up dead as a direct consequence of the spread of nazifascistic thoughts, then words, then attitudes, then actions
CC: @taylan@feministwiki.org<\/a> @light@noc.social<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a>
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Accusing women of \"neurosis\" for not wanting to be exposed to random male strangers, while they themselves may be naked, is quite blatant misogyny. I'm not sure that's how you meant it to come across, but there's hardly a different way to interpret what you said. I urge you to talk to some women about this and listen to them empathically instead of projecting \"neurosis\" onto them.
Indeed, based on the story you just told, I have to say the whole thing comes across like a case of projection. If a father is out with a daughter who's so young that she can't use a restroom alone, then there's no problem taking her into the men's restroom. The father is with her after all, which ensures the safety of the child, so there's no problem. Maybe you thought there was some hard set-in-stone rule saying no female human being (even a 4 year-old) is ever allowed to set foot into the men's room, unless the entire concept of single-sex restrooms is abolished? Some flexibility in thinking is warranted here. This isn't \"psychological violence\" but rather just your own confusion, sorry.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/26d41ea4-a283-4abf-b42f-2bbbb24dd3c3","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/26d41ea4-a283-4abf-b42f-2bbbb24dd3c3","objectType":"note","content":"@lxo<\/a> @light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a>
Accusing women of \"neurosis\" for not wanting to be exposed to random male strangers, while they themselves may be naked, is quite blatant misogyny. I'm not sure that's how you meant it to come across, but there's hardly a different way to interpret what you said. I urge you to talk to some women about this and listen to them empathically instead of projecting \"neurosis\" onto them.
Indeed, based on the story you just told, I have to say the whole thing comes across like a case of projection. If a father is out with a daughter who's so young that she can't use a restroom alone, then there's no problem taking her into the men's restroom. The father is with her after all, which ensures the safety of the child, so there's no problem. Maybe you thought there was some hard set-in-stone rule saying no female human being (even a 4 year-old) is ever allowed to set foot into the men's room, unless the entire concept of single-sex restrooms is abolished? Some flexibility in thinking is warranted here. This isn't \"psychological violence\" but rather just your own confusion, sorry.","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/26d41ea4-a283-4abf-b42f-2bbbb24dd3c3","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780075081.812694","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12672907"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12678396","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-30T18:32:36+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/26d41ea4-a283-4abf-b42f-2bbbb24dd3c3"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light","displayName":"Light","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-original-tmp20250113235345.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":360,"height":360},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-96-20250114071548.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-48-20250114042321.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-24-20250114071548.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"258200"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-96-20250114071548.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Civil libertarian. Brit. In my 20s. Likes civil debate.I sometimes repost things or post quotes of or links to things because they are interesting, not necessarily because I agree with or endorse them.Don't get on my case for contradicting myself. I'm working my views out as I go along.","url":"https:\/\/noc.social\/@light","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"light","displayName":"Light","note":"Civil libertarian. Brit. In my 20s. Likes civil debate.I sometimes repost things or post quotes of or links to things because they are interesting, not necessarily because I agree with or endorse them.Don't get on my case for contradicting myself. I'm working my views out as I go along."}},"content":"
taboos often make people neurotic. it's a lot easier to find taboos nonsensical and easy to escape from if you haven't developed a neurotic response to them. it doesn't follow that it's easy for those who have. some social changes take generations to achieve because overcoming taboos is so hard. it's hard even to debate them.
CC: @taylan@feministwiki.org<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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taboos often make people neurotic. it's a lot easier to find taboos nonsensical and easy to escape from if you haven't developed a neurotic response to them. it doesn't follow that it's easy for those who have. some social changes take generations to achieve because overcoming taboos is so hard. it's hard even to debate them.
CC: @taylan@feministwiki.org<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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Relevant: https:\/\/isought.info<\/a>.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116663347497446839","object":{"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116663347497446839","objectType":"note","content":"
Relevant: https:\/\/isought.info<\/a>.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/noc.social\/@light\/116663347497446839","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780078050.803418","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780078050.803418"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12678368","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-30T18:22:28+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/noc.social\/@light\/116663347497446839"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-original-tmp20250127072808.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":160,"height":160},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-48-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-24-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"323065"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca"}},"content":"I can agree with:
I don't think arguments should be considered to be violence
one cay say that it's not the argument per se that amounts to violence. but if the argument encompasses an injurious attitude of dehumanization, of disrespect, that<\/i> is violence. it's the attitude, not the argument.
it doesn't matter if it hurts one person or everyone. murder doesn't cease to be violence just because it's not genocide.
cutting violence off at the physical boundary is too limiting. there are various other kinds of harms and injuries that are not physical, but that are even more hurtful and damaging.
CC: @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @taylan@feministwiki.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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I don't think arguments should be considered to be violence
one cay say that it's not the argument per se that amounts to violence. but if the argument encompasses an injurious attitude of dehumanization, of disrespect, that<\/i> is violence. it's the attitude, not the argument.
it doesn't matter if it hurts one person or everyone. murder doesn't cease to be violence just because it's not genocide.
cutting violence off at the physical boundary is too limiting. there are various other kinds of harms and injuries that are not physical, but that are even more hurtful and damaging.
CC: @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @taylan@feministwiki.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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If only shared locker rooms are available, then women have two options:
1. Accept that she might have to share a locker room with random men. A random male stranger may walk in while she's naked, or she may walk in on a whole group of naked men upon entering a locker room.
2. She avoids ever using public locker rooms, thus not being able to fully participate in society.
Why would you want to force women into this predicament? It's bizarre.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/42aee918-f7b8-46af-86e9-073c286a47d5","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/42aee918-f7b8-46af-86e9-073c286a47d5","objectType":"note","content":"@lxo<\/a> @light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a>
If only shared locker rooms are available, then women have two options:
1. Accept that she might have to share a locker room with random men. A random male stranger may walk in while she's naked, or she may walk in on a whole group of naked men upon entering a locker room.
2. She avoids ever using public locker rooms, thus not being able to fully participate in society.
Why would you want to force women into this predicament? It's bizarre.","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/42aee918-f7b8-46af-86e9-073c286a47d5","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780075263.402308","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780075263.402308"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12673103","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-29T18:19:58+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/42aee918-f7b8-46af-86e9-073c286a47d5"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-original-tmp20250127072808.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":160,"height":160},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-48-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-24-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"323065"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca"}},"content":"contrast my argument about offering more choices and avoiding neuroses with your misrepresentation thereof of forcing anyone to anything. I don't really care to find out how you got to this false notion about my stance, but you're probably overreacting to something. have a safe and free life.
CC: @light@noc.social<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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CC: @light@noc.social<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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back to the topic, violence doesn't have to be physical, it can be moral, psychological, and that's what the use of a disparaging term can amount to.
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back to the topic, violence doesn't have to be physical, it can be moral, psychological, and that's what the use of a disparaging term can amount to.
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> question: are male people in a locker room supposed to ask around whether anyone else in there is a trans person or a cis woman, and to get any such person's consent before exposing themselves?
A men's locker room is a place in which men undress. Any person entering hopefully knows that.
How great that these spaces exist, so people who don't want to be exposed to naked male strangers can simply avoid them, and so I as a male don't have to worry about accidentally making some poor woman uncomfortable.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/4a334556-5013-41a1-a164-822409597aab","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/4a334556-5013-41a1-a164-822409597aab","objectType":"note","content":"@lxo<\/a> @light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a>
> question: are male people in a locker room supposed to ask around whether anyone else in there is a trans person or a cis woman, and to get any such person's consent before exposing themselves?
A men's locker room is a place in which men undress. Any person entering hopefully knows that.
How great that these spaces exist, so people who don't want to be exposed to naked male strangers can simply avoid them, and so I as a male don't have to worry about accidentally making some poor woman uncomfortable.","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/4a334556-5013-41a1-a164-822409597aab","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780010880.930701","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780010880.930701"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12672930","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-29T17:26:59+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/4a334556-5013-41a1-a164-822409597aab"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-original-tmp20250127072808.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":160,"height":160},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-48-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-24-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"323065"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca"}},"content":"a shared locker room is also a place in which anyone can undress. therefore, no one should have to ask for consent or feel threatened by the mere exposure of certain body parts in there, right? primary problem solved?
CC: @light@noc.social<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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> assuming she's not a made-up propaganda tool
No, victims of male violence are not \"made up propaganda tools.\" This is an awful thing to say.
> I'm arguing nobody should be forced to face danger to change clothes
As confirmed by statistics from the UK, the changes you propose do as a matter of fact force women to face higher risk of sexual assault.
> requiring women to go make themselves more vulnerable in spaces where they're separated from their safe company where aggressors could be hiding
This is a nonsensical fantasy situation.
There is no such thing as men secretly sneaking into female-only spaces to wait for an individual woman to enter alone so he can pounce on her, which would be thwarted if only men were allowed into there as well.
Maybe such a thing has happened before in extremely rare cases, but even then, how would unisex rooms even solve this? Even such a psychopathic plan would be easier to commit with unisex rooms: The man can walk in freely and doesn't have to sneak around. Then he just needs to wait for a moment where a woman enters and nobody else is around. And the woman won't even be immediately alerted by his presence because it's a unisex space.
Had it been a female only space, then not only would the man need to sneak in unnoticed to begin with; women entering would also be immediately on alert as they see or hear him, since it's a female only space.
I think you're tying yourself into knots trying to come up with a reason why unisex spaces are safer, when it is simply not so.
> now let's think of a trans woman who is small and not particularly strong. does such a woman deserve a safe space? or is she not worthy of it? is she under a lower risk of violence in a men's space, in a women's space, or in a shared space?
Small and feminine men (some of whom might \"identify as a woman\") deserve safety as well, yes. Is their safety improved by abolishing female-only spaces? How?
> how about a trans man? does such a man deserve a safe space? where would he be safer?
Women who identify as men deserve safety as well, yes. Is their safety improved by abolishing female-only spaces?
> people have no easy way of assessing one's sexual orientation, just like they have no easy way of assessing one's assigned sex.
We can easily assess the sex of around 99% of everyone, by looks and voice.
And as I've already explained before: If a man genuinely passes as a woman, then no women would be bothered by him using the women's room anyway. The problem solves itself. What you're campaigning for is that men who look obviously like men should be allowed into women's spaces and that women should have no right to complain.
> what can be more evidently noticed is the gender expression, which would be fine for telling men and women apart. but that's not the categorization you're arguing for, is it?
No, a man putting on a dress and makeup is still easy to tell apart from a woman with the same style. Look at the photos I sent earlier.
A woman wearing trousers, having a buzz cut, and not using makeup doesn't make her look like a man.
The \"gender expression\" of a person has no relevance to this topic at all, really.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/3326ae2e-2bd3-4943-a43d-3e255f0e6176","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/3326ae2e-2bd3-4943-a43d-3e255f0e6176","objectType":"note","content":"@lxo<\/a> @light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a>
> assuming she's not a made-up propaganda tool
No, victims of male violence are not \"made up propaganda tools.\" This is an awful thing to say.
> I'm arguing nobody should be forced to face danger to change clothes
As confirmed by statistics from the UK, the changes you propose do as a matter of fact force women to face higher risk of sexual assault.
> requiring women to go make themselves more vulnerable in spaces where they're separated from their safe company where aggressors could be hiding
This is a nonsensical fantasy situation.
There is no such thing as men secretly sneaking into female-only spaces to wait for an individual woman to enter alone so he can pounce on her, which would be thwarted if only men were allowed into there as well.
Maybe such a thing has happened before in extremely rare cases, but even then, how would unisex rooms even solve this? Even such a psychopathic plan would be easier to commit with unisex rooms: The man can walk in freely and doesn't have to sneak around. Then he just needs to wait for a moment where a woman enters and nobody else is around. And the woman won't even be immediately alerted by his presence because it's a unisex space.
Had it been a female only space, then not only would the man need to sneak in unnoticed to begin with; women entering would also be immediately on alert as they see or hear him, since it's a female only space.
I think you're tying yourself into knots trying to come up with a reason why unisex spaces are safer, when it is simply not so.
> now let's think of a trans woman who is small and not particularly strong. does such a woman deserve a safe space? or is she not worthy of it? is she under a lower risk of violence in a men's space, in a women's space, or in a shared space?
Small and feminine men (some of whom might \"identify as a woman\") deserve safety as well, yes. Is their safety improved by abolishing female-only spaces? How?
> how about a trans man? does such a man deserve a safe space? where would he be safer?
Women who identify as men deserve safety as well, yes. Is their safety improved by abolishing female-only spaces?
> people have no easy way of assessing one's sexual orientation, just like they have no easy way of assessing one's assigned sex.
We can easily assess the sex of around 99% of everyone, by looks and voice.
And as I've already explained before: If a man genuinely passes as a woman, then no women would be bothered by him using the women's room anyway. The problem solves itself. What you're campaigning for is that men who look obviously like men should be allowed into women's spaces and that women should have no right to complain.
> what can be more evidently noticed is the gender expression, which would be fine for telling men and women apart. but that's not the categorization you're arguing for, is it?
No, a man putting on a dress and makeup is still easy to tell apart from a woman with the same style. Look at the photos I sent earlier.
A woman wearing trousers, having a buzz cut, and not using makeup doesn't make her look like a man.
The \"gender expression\" of a person has no relevance to this topic at all, really.","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/3326ae2e-2bd3-4943-a43d-3e255f0e6176","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780010017.838888","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12669157"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12672904","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-29T17:22:40+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/3326ae2e-2bd3-4943-a43d-3e255f0e6176"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light","displayName":"Light","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-original-tmp20250113235345.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":360,"height":360},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-96-20250114071548.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-48-20250114042321.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-24-20250114071548.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"258200"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/258200-96-20250114071548.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Civil libertarian. Brit. In my 20s. Likes civil debate.I sometimes repost things or post quotes of or links to things because they are interesting, not necessarily because I agree with or endorse them.Don't get on my case for contradicting myself. I'm working my views out as I go along.","url":"https:\/\/noc.social\/@light","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"light","displayName":"Light","note":"Civil libertarian. Brit. In my 20s. Likes civil debate.I sometimes repost things or post quotes of or links to things because they are interesting, not necessarily because I agree with or endorse them.Don't get on my case for contradicting myself. I'm working my views out as I go along."}},"content":"
>There is no such thing as men secretly sneaking into female-only spaces to wait for an individual woman to enter alone so he can pounce on her, which would be thwarted if only men were allowed into there as well.
I think he meant female predators<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116657231877412119","object":{"id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116657231877412119","objectType":"note","content":"
>There is no such thing as men secretly sneaking into female-only spaces to wait for an individual woman to enter alone so he can pounce on her, which would be thwarted if only men were allowed into there as well.
I think he meant female predators<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12672905","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/3326ae2e-2bd3-4943-a43d-3e255f0e6176","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/3326ae2e-2bd3-4943-a43d-3e255f0e6176"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12672905","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-29T17:22:39+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12672905"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan","displayName":"Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-original-tmp20241130091611.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":983,"height":983},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-96-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-48-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-24-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"5095"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/5095-96-20241130091612.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"#fedi22 #FreeSoftware #Programming #ProgrammingLanguages #Scheme #Emacs #Politics #Ethics #Philosophy #Feminism","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/users\/taylan","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"taylan","displayName":"Taylan (Now 18% More Deranged)","note":"#fedi22 #FreeSoftware #Programming #ProgrammingLanguages #Scheme #Emacs #Politics #Ethics #Philosophy #Feminism"}},"content":"@light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @lxo<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a>
If so, I'm not aware of that being a real problem either. His whole argument of \"sex segregation causes potential victims to be separated from the flock, so they become more vulnerable\" frankly sounds like BS to me.
By the way, I'm almost certain that this isn't a solved issue, or non-issue, in most indigenous populations either. Which indigenous population are we talking about anyway? There are many on the planet and they are all different. Some are horribly sexist and violent.
Some indigenous cultures used to be idolized as bastions of sexual enlightenment by sex liberal activists, like Peter Thatchell, who in 1997 wrote favorably of the work of an anthropologist (Prof. Gilbert Herdt) who portrayed the Sambia tribe of Papua New Guinea as a positive example. Upon closer examination, it comes out that older men (\"warriors\") in this tribe practice a sadistic abuse ritual to initiate boys (into \"manhood\") who often cry and beg to their mothers to be spared of the abuse.
https:\/\/fxtwitter.com\/TwisterFilm\/status\/1683325404088598528<\/a>
It's a similar deal with ancient Greek pederasty. In recent years it's become a trend to speak of ancient Greece as if they had some kind of enlightened gay accepting culture. In actual fact, they had an extremely patriarchal social hierarchy in which older men could abuse boys without consequence.
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5cWgoq32_-s<\/a> (Section from 1:45 to 8:10 deals with the ancient world; only about 6 minutes. His sources are in the video description.)
If there's really some indigenous tribes out there which are so free of violence that nudism is the norm and doesn't bother women to the least, then I wish the whole planet could be like that. But that's not going to happen by passing laws that effectively abolish female-only spaces, without addressing the social violence that made women campaign for these spaces in the first place.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/fbf56e92-2dbb-4922-b777-66993cbb6884","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/fbf56e92-2dbb-4922-b777-66993cbb6884","objectType":"note","content":"@light<\/a> @quasi<\/a> @lxo<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese<\/a>
If so, I'm not aware of that being a real problem either. His whole argument of \"sex segregation causes potential victims to be separated from the flock, so they become more vulnerable\" frankly sounds like BS to me.
By the way, I'm almost certain that this isn't a solved issue, or non-issue, in most indigenous populations either. Which indigenous population are we talking about anyway? There are many on the planet and they are all different. Some are horribly sexist and violent.
Some indigenous cultures used to be idolized as bastions of sexual enlightenment by sex liberal activists, like Peter Thatchell, who in 1997 wrote favorably of the work of an anthropologist (Prof. Gilbert Herdt) who portrayed the Sambia tribe of Papua New Guinea as a positive example. Upon closer examination, it comes out that older men (\"warriors\") in this tribe practice a sadistic abuse ritual to initiate boys (into \"manhood\") who often cry and beg to their mothers to be spared of the abuse.
https:\/\/fxtwitter.com\/TwisterFilm\/status\/1683325404088598528<\/a>
It's a similar deal with ancient Greek pederasty. In recent years it's become a trend to speak of ancient Greece as if they had some kind of enlightened gay accepting culture. In actual fact, they had an extremely patriarchal social hierarchy in which older men could abuse boys without consequence.
https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=5cWgoq32_-s<\/a> (Section from 1:45 to 8:10 deals with the ancient world; only about 6 minutes. His sources are in the video description.)
If there's really some indigenous tribes out there which are so free of violence that nudism is the norm and doesn't bother women to the least, then I wish the whole planet could be like that. But that's not going to happen by passing laws that effectively abolish female-only spaces, without addressing the social violence that made women campaign for these spaces in the first place.","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/fbf56e92-2dbb-4922-b777-66993cbb6884","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light\/statuses\/116657231877412119","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/12672905"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/spinster.xyz\/users\/Gnomeshatecheese"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/noc.social\/users\/light"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/peister.org\/users\/quasi"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-26:objectType=thread:nonce=419518b9afaa1c08","notice_info":{"local_id":"12672906","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-29T17:22:36+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fedi.feministwiki.org\/objects\/fbf56e92-2dbb-4922-b777-66993cbb6884"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-original-tmp20250127072808.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":160,"height":160},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-48-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-24-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"323065"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/323065-96-20250127072856.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca","url":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lxo","displayName":"Alexandre Oliva","note":"Main interests: Free Software, Neurodivergence, Veganism, Marxism, Politics, Social Justice, Environment, Vocal\/Choir Music; Affiliations: GNU, FSF, FSFLA, 0G, Linux-libre, GCC, glibc, Libre-SOC, AdaCore; Languages: Portugu\u00eas; English; Espa\u00f1ol; learning Esperanto, French, Ukrainian, Japanese;formerly @lxo@gnusocial.jp @lxo@gnusocial.net @lxoliva@diasporabr.com.br@lxoliva@identi.ca"}},"content":"I doubt you'll find human societies anywhere that are free of violence, alas
my point is that they don't suffer from this neurosis that associates the view of certain body parts with sexual threats. imposing this neurosis is another kind of violence, and it brings about opportunities for predators to exert further violence, because it removes reasonable safety choices from potential victims, and, for the predators, it turns views and situations that could and should be absolutely unremarkable into ones that feel exciting and could bring about sexual arousal.
so you see my solution is far from shared locker rooms, which you appear to be fixated on for some good and some misguided reasons, but about untangling nudity from sexual activity, to make everywhere and everyone safer and healthier. that's not the society I live in either, alas.
I still recall a traumatic episode in which I took my then ~4yo daughter to a shopping mall to buy a mothers' day surprise to her mother = my wife. she needed to go to the restroom. what was I to do? get her into the men's restroom was thought to be unacceptable, she had to go into the women's restroom, but I couldn't go there with her. she ended up getting help from another kind lady who found her all by herself in there and offered help, but what if it was an unkind lady? all this followed from these stupid notions that seeing certain body parts can be traumatic (it doesn't have to be this way, it's learned misbehavior) and that therefore there must be segregation. there are strong notes of patriarchy in this sick structure, both in separation of potential victims from the flock, and in the assumption that the mother will always be available to take care of the children. nowadays, shopping malls often offer so-called family restroom facilities, and I feel very favorable to them, and I resent the psychological violence that was forced on me and on my daughter in that episode.
CC: @light@noc.social<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-06-17:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780075081.812694","object":{"id":"https:\/\/snac.lx.oliva.nom.br\/lxo\/p\/1780075081.812694","objectType":"note","content":"I doubt you'll find human societies anywhere that are free of violence, alas
my point is that they don't suffer from this neurosis that associates the view of certain body parts with sexual threats. imposing this neurosis is another kind of violence, and it brings about opportunities for predators to exert further violence, because it removes reasonable safety choices from potential victims, and, for the predators, it turns views and situations that could and should be absolutely unremarkable into ones that feel exciting and could bring about sexual arousal.
so you see my solution is far from shared locker rooms, which you appear to be fixated on for some good and some misguided reasons, but about untangling nudity from sexual activity, to make everywhere and everyone safer and healthier. that's not the society I live in either, alas.
I still recall a traumatic episode in which I took my then ~4yo daughter to a shopping mall to buy a mothers' day surprise to her mother = my wife. she needed to go to the restroom. what was I to do? get her into the men's restroom was thought to be unacceptable, she had to go into the women's restroom, but I couldn't go there with her. she ended up getting help from another kind lady who found her all by herself in there and offered help, but what if it was an unkind lady? all this followed from these stupid notions that seeing certain body parts can be traumatic (it doesn't have to be this way, it's learned misbehavior) and that therefore there must be segregation. there are strong notes of patriarchy in this sick structure, both in separation of potential victims from the flock, and in the assumption that the mother will always be available to take care of the children. nowadays, shopping malls often offer so-called family restroom facilities, and I feel very favorable to them, and I resent the psychological violence that was forced on me and on my daughter in that episode.
CC: @light@noc.social<\/a> @quasi@peister.org<\/a> @Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz<\/a>
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