{"generator":"GNU social 2.0.2-dev","title":"Conversation","totalItems":13,"items":[{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm","displayName":"\u24b7\u24e1\u24d4\u24e3\u24e3","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-original-tmp20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-96-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-48-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-24-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"326421"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-96-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"New main account for @brettm@goto.coiloptic.org (running snac, gotosocial database grew too enormous).Interests:.\ud83e\udd8a #memes #taichi #Acupuncture #shiatsu #TraditionalChineseMedicine music #foss #SciFi #books.\ud83e\udd8a Minimalist OS: #OpenBSD #AlpineLinux #PostmarketOS #bsd #unix.\ud83e\udd8a Recreational programming:#vlang #harelang #odinlang #haxe #programming #Compilers #ProgrammingLanguages.\ud83e\udd8a Politics: #socialism #marxism #geopolitics #history.\ud83e\udd8a #ClimateChange #TippingPoint #AMOC #cyclones.","url":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"brettm","displayName":"\u24b7\u24e1\u24d4\u24e3\u24e3","note":"New main account for @brettm@goto.coiloptic.org (running snac, gotosocial database grew too enormous).Interests:.\ud83e\udd8a #memes #taichi #Acupuncture #shiatsu #TraditionalChineseMedicine music #foss #SciFi #books.\ud83e\udd8a Minimalist OS: #OpenBSD #AlpineLinux #PostmarketOS #bsd #unix.\ud83e\udd8a Recreational programming:#vlang #harelang #odinlang #haxe #programming #Compilers #ProgrammingLanguages.\ud83e\udd8a Politics: #socialism #marxism #geopolitics #history.\ud83e\udd8a #ClimateChange #TippingPoint #AMOC #cyclones."}},"content":"CC: @icedquinn@blob.cat<\/a> @phnt@fluffytail.org<\/a>

Personally I would not call threatening to hunt someone down and kill them \"being tedious\" lol

In the case of the openbsd port, there was no trademark violation as it was just a repo where someone was trying to get it to build on openbsd, it had not even been put in the official openbsd ports tree, much less linked to the build. So they were wrong (no trademark had ben violated). As I recall it, the first contact with someone from PaleMoon was them appearing out of nowhere with hostility not tediousness. So much hostility that the person working on it basically said \"there are plenty of firefox forks out there after your behaviour I'm not gonna bother working on this one anymore\"

If all they cared about was trademark, then a reasonable first message would be \"hey I'm ____ palemoon maintainer, if you end up publishing this don't use our branding which is trademarked, call it something else\"
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Personally I would not call threatening to hunt someone down and kill them \"being tedious\" lol

In the case of the openbsd port, there was no trademark violation as it was just a repo where someone was trying to get it to build on openbsd, it had not even been put in the official openbsd ports tree, much less linked to the build. So they were wrong (no trademark had ben violated). As I recall it, the first contact with someone from PaleMoon was them appearing out of nowhere with hostility not tediousness. So much hostility that the person working on it basically said \"there are plenty of firefox forks out there after your behaviour I'm not gonna bother working on this one anymore\"

If all they cared about was trademark, then a reasonable first message would be \"hey I'm ____ palemoon maintainer, if you end up publishing this don't use our branding which is trademarked, call it something else\"
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https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart.","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"icedquinn","displayName":"iced depresso","note":"Read your fedi timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart."}},"content":"@brettm<\/a> @phnt<\/a> being tedious was in reply to them having the right to invoke trademark even though almost nobody actually does for just repackaging apps. i replied to the other thing 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timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart.","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"icedquinn","displayName":"iced depresso","note":"Read your fedi timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart."}},"content":"@phnt<\/a> @brettm<\/a> the purpose of a trade\/service mark is basically ownership over a certification of production. if someone else is producing the good on your design you aren't required to certify it.

patents are ownership of the design itself. you might be licensed to produce it (if the design is patented) but not wear the service mark.

so they're not wrong, they're just being tedious.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-08-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c1bddeac-eef7-40e9-af55-26f64f5a5cbe","object":{"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c1bddeac-eef7-40e9-af55-26f64f5a5cbe","objectType":"note","content":"@phnt<\/a> @brettm<\/a> the purpose of a trade\/service mark is basically ownership over a certification of production. if someone else is producing the good on your design you aren't required to certify it.

patents are ownership of the design itself. you might be licensed to produce it (if the design is patented) but not wear the service mark.

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@icedquinn<\/a> @brettm<\/a> <\/p>

they're just being tedious.<\/p>

Malicious is a better word. Malicious by a technicality. Nobody else does this but them.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-08-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/631984ae-4627-4a83-8ea9-d5dff05b2694","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/631984ae-4627-4a83-8ea9-d5dff05b2694","objectType":"note","content":"

@icedquinn<\/a> @brettm<\/a> <\/p>

they're just being tedious.<\/p>

Malicious is a better word. Malicious by a technicality. Nobody else does this but them.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/631984ae-4627-4a83-8ea9-d5dff05b2694","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c1bddeac-eef7-40e9-af55-26f64f5a5cbe","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c1bddeac-eef7-40e9-af55-26f64f5a5cbe"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-02:objectType=thread:nonce=551332e0d9abccd8","notice_info":{"local_id":"12539358","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-02T09:40:51+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/631984ae-4627-4a83-8ea9-d5dff05b2694"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn","displayName":"iced depresso","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-original-tmp20240327163106.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":302,"height":302},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-96-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-48-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-24-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"1514"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-96-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Read your fedi timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart.","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"icedquinn","displayName":"iced depresso","note":"Read your fedi timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart."}},"content":"@phnt<\/a> @brettm<\/a> i just use upstream firefox. i don't see the point of using a dependent.

stuff like zen browser might be neat but its ultimately just a ux shell","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-08-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/01cdcaad-ddf8-4a2c-959a-83ca06f04657","object":{"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/01cdcaad-ddf8-4a2c-959a-83ca06f04657","objectType":"note","content":"@phnt<\/a> @brettm<\/a> i just use upstream firefox. i don't see the point of using a dependent.

stuff like zen browser might be neat but its ultimately just a ux shell","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/01cdcaad-ddf8-4a2c-959a-83ca06f04657","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/631984ae-4627-4a83-8ea9-d5dff05b2694","url":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/631984ae-4627-4a83-8ea9-d5dff05b2694"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/users\/phnt"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-02:objectType=thread:nonce=551332e0d9abccd8","notice_info":{"local_id":"12539359","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-02T09:40:50+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/01cdcaad-ddf8-4a2c-959a-83ca06f04657"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm","displayName":"\u24b7\u24e1\u24d4\u24e3\u24e3","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-original-tmp20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-96-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-48-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-24-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"326421"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-96-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"New main account for @brettm@goto.coiloptic.org (running snac, gotosocial database grew too enormous).Interests:.\ud83e\udd8a #memes #taichi #Acupuncture #shiatsu #TraditionalChineseMedicine music #foss #SciFi #books.\ud83e\udd8a Minimalist OS: #OpenBSD #AlpineLinux #PostmarketOS #bsd #unix.\ud83e\udd8a Recreational programming:#vlang #harelang #odinlang #haxe #programming #Compilers #ProgrammingLanguages.\ud83e\udd8a Politics: #socialism #marxism #geopolitics #history.\ud83e\udd8a #ClimateChange #TippingPoint #AMOC #cyclones.","url":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"brettm","displayName":"\u24b7\u24e1\u24d4\u24e3\u24e3","note":"New main account for @brettm@goto.coiloptic.org (running snac, gotosocial database grew too enormous).Interests:.\ud83e\udd8a #memes #taichi #Acupuncture #shiatsu #TraditionalChineseMedicine music #foss #SciFi #books.\ud83e\udd8a Minimalist OS: #OpenBSD #AlpineLinux #PostmarketOS #bsd #unix.\ud83e\udd8a Recreational programming:#vlang #harelang #odinlang #haxe #programming #Compilers #ProgrammingLanguages.\ud83e\udd8a Politics: #socialism #marxism #geopolitics #history.\ud83e\udd8a #ClimateChange #TippingPoint #AMOC #cyclones."}},"content":"\"Not friendly or safe\":

PaleMoon developer threatened to \"hunt down and kill\" AlbusLuna developer; other PaleMoon developer threatened legal action against OpenBSD user for working on port of PaleMoon.

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depresso","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-original-tmp20240327163106.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":302,"height":302},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-96-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-48-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-24-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"1514"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-96-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Read your fedi timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead 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insane","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/64a0770c-20e6-480d-bf2a-36dd12d061f0","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm\/p\/1777713305.749743","url":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm\/p\/1777713305.749743"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-02:objectType=thread:nonce=551332e0d9abccd8","notice_info":{"local_id":"12539355","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-02T09:40:07+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/64a0770c-20e6-480d-bf2a-36dd12d061f0"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn","displayName":"iced 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@icedquinn<\/a> @brettm<\/a> Palememe in the past threatened to sue packagers making palememe packages (just packaging it under the same name is a trademark violation to them).<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-08-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/26311f45-3577-4197-b4d4-9ac31525bff0","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/26311f45-3577-4197-b4d4-9ac31525bff0","objectType":"note","content":"

@icedquinn<\/a> @brettm<\/a> Palememe in the past threatened to sue packagers making palememe packages (just packaging it under the same name is a trademark violation to them).<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/26311f45-3577-4197-b4d4-9ac31525bff0","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/19a38e72-5a57-47d0-aaf0-81abae376d75","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/19a38e72-5a57-47d0-aaf0-81abae376d75"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-02:objectType=thread:nonce=551332e0d9abccd8","notice_info":{"local_id":"12539294","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-02T09:20:15+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/26311f45-3577-4197-b4d4-9ac31525bff0"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn","displayName":"iced depresso","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-original-tmp20240327163106.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":302,"height":302},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-96-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-48-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-24-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"1514"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/1514-96-20240327163110.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Read your fedi timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart.","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/users\/icedquinn","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"icedquinn","displayName":"iced depresso","note":"Read your fedi timeline in mutt: https:\/\/git.sr.ht\/~icedquinn\/pleromaboxlocal Nim stan. post-human. ploopy trackball enjoyer (thanks @mia@movsw.0x0.st)The ginger elf with the cold, dead heart."}},"content":"@phnt<\/a> @brettm<\/a>
> just packaging it is a trademark violation
technically true. mozilla just isn't litigious about it. debian \"iceweasels\" it because they demand universal permissive licensing and mozilla was only willing to give debian itself a blank cheque.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-08-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c0bf29ca-d8e4-4505-8228-eabd47551fdc","object":{"id":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c0bf29ca-d8e4-4505-8228-eabd47551fdc","objectType":"note","content":"@phnt<\/a> @brettm<\/a>
> just packaging it is a trademark violation
technically true. mozilla just isn't litigious about it. debian \"iceweasels\" it because they demand universal permissive licensing and mozilla was only willing to give debian itself a blank cheque.","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c0bf29ca-d8e4-4505-8228-eabd47551fdc","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/26311f45-3577-4197-b4d4-9ac31525bff0","url":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/objects\/26311f45-3577-4197-b4d4-9ac31525bff0"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fluffytail.org\/users\/phnt"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-05-02:objectType=thread:nonce=551332e0d9abccd8","notice_info":{"local_id":"12539295","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-05-02T09:20:13+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/blob.cat\/objects\/c0bf29ca-d8e4-4505-8228-eabd47551fdc"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm","displayName":"\u24b7\u24e1\u24d4\u24e3\u24e3","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-original-tmp20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-96-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-48-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-24-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"326421"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/326421-96-20250207052951.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"New main account for @brettm@goto.coiloptic.org (running snac, gotosocial database grew too enormous).Interests:.\ud83e\udd8a #memes #taichi #Acupuncture #shiatsu #TraditionalChineseMedicine music #foss #SciFi #books.\ud83e\udd8a Minimalist OS: #OpenBSD #AlpineLinux #PostmarketOS #bsd #unix.\ud83e\udd8a Recreational programming:#vlang #harelang #odinlang #haxe #programming #Compilers #ProgrammingLanguages.\ud83e\udd8a Politics: #socialism #marxism #geopolitics #history.\ud83e\udd8a #ClimateChange #TippingPoint #AMOC #cyclones.","url":"https:\/\/swarm.coiloptic.org\/brettm","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"brettm","displayName":"\u24b7\u24e1\u24d4\u24e3\u24e3","note":"New main account for @brettm@goto.coiloptic.org (running snac, gotosocial database grew too enormous).Interests:.\ud83e\udd8a #memes #taichi #Acupuncture #shiatsu #TraditionalChineseMedicine music #foss #SciFi #books.\ud83e\udd8a Minimalist OS: #OpenBSD #AlpineLinux #PostmarketOS #bsd #unix.\ud83e\udd8a Recreational programming:#vlang #harelang #odinlang #haxe #programming #Compilers #ProgrammingLanguages.\ud83e\udd8a Politics: #socialism #marxism #geopolitics #history.\ud83e\udd8a #ClimateChange #TippingPoint #AMOC #cyclones."}},"content":"\" PaleMoon isn't a friendly or safe place. Tobin has left the project, but PaleMoon remains hos\u00adtile to FOSS devel\u00adop\u00aders who try to use the PaleMoon code. Even though the code is FOSS.

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https:\/\/albusluna.com\/<\/a>

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