@lispi314<\/a><\/p> That was part of my point. At that time in the mid-1990s, sysadmins generally thought that capitalism needed those who actually understood how the Internet worked.<\/p> As you say, it turns out we had no power at all against both the rents you mention and how excessive use of NAT turned the Internet into a primarily broadcast medium rather than an egalitarian one we all arrogantly assumed couldn't be coopted.<\/p> Cc: @craigbro<\/a><\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn\/statuses\/116492462039884257","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn\/statuses\/116492462039884257","objectType":"note","content":" @lispi314<\/a><\/p> That was part of my point. 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IPv4 addrs oughta be worthless, but ARDC became a wonderful grantmaker b\/c Bezos paid $108mil for 25% of a Class A. \ud83d\ude32<\/p> Truth is stranger than prediction. <\/p> Most who did prognosticate accurately probably got lucky.<\/p> This terrifies me b\/c the primary job of an activist policy maker is to anticipate future events & have policies ready to solve them.\ud83d\ude2c<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn\/statuses\/116487383926932033","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn\/statuses\/116487383926932033","objectType":"note","content":" (2\/2)\u2026Why insomnia?: After 30 years, this became my archetype of how ridiculously bad we technologists are at prognostication. <\/p> IPv6 remains spotty. 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raft of dire predictions that don\u2019t occur because complex systems are often remarkably resilient when they have actors embedded in them with massive resources.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/users\/craigbro\/statuses\/116487865831742752","object":{"id":"https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/users\/craigbro\/statuses\/116487865831742752","objectType":"note","content":" @bkuhn<\/a> I think this is also an artifact of getting older, you collect a raft of dire predictions that don\u2019t occur because complex systems are often remarkably resilient when they have actors embedded in them with massive 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(Technomancer) Wizard (to eventually be).You might know me from @lispi314@mastodon.top I like Free Software, #Emacs and resilient computing a lot.I also like anime girls, animes with cute girls doing cute things and artwork with them too. Cute stories are good too.Some Pins:Software and Assumed Privilege, common problems: https:\/\/mastodon.top\/@lispi314\/111253066257920146Writing Privacy-preserving software & services 101: https:\/\/mastodon.top\/@lispi314\/110849018589421824#Kopimism #FreeSoftware #CommonLisp","url":"https:\/\/udongein.xyz\/users\/lispi314","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"lispi314","displayName":"LisPi","note":"Hi, I'm Lispi, Lisp (Technomancer) Wizard (to eventually be).You might know me from @lispi314@mastodon.top I like Free Software, #Emacs and resilient computing a lot.I also like anime girls, animes with cute girls doing cute things and artwork with them too. Cute stories are good too.Some Pins:Software and Assumed Privilege, common problems: https:\/\/mastodon.top\/@lispi314\/111253066257920146Writing Privacy-preserving software & services 101: https:\/\/mastodon.top\/@lispi314\/110849018589421824#Kopimism #FreeSoftware #CommonLisp"}},"content":"@craigbro<\/a> @bkuhn<\/a> I'd hardly call it a dire prediction.
IPv6 lagging behind is in considerable part due to perverse incentives for ISPs to maximally rent-seek IPv4 addresses and "business" features.
IPv6 obsoletes a lot of their rent-seeking schemes, which they dislike.
The SANS instructor wrongly assumed companies cared more about doing things properly than screwing over customers for money.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias\/statuses\/116492577112162222\/activity","object":{"id":"https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/users\/craigbro\/statuses\/116487865831742752","objectType":"note","content":"
IPv6 lagging behind is in considerable part due to perverse incentives for ISPs to maximally rent-seek IPv4 addresses and \"business\" features.
IPv6 obsoletes a lot of their rent-seeking schemes, which they dislike.
The SANS instructor wrongly assumed companies cared more about doing things properly than screwing over customers for money.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/udongein.xyz\/objects\/9f1fcdb7-2bd1-4c1e-817a-37e2c03af0e3","object":{"id":"https:\/\/udongein.xyz\/objects\/9f1fcdb7-2bd1-4c1e-817a-37e2c03af0e3","objectType":"note","content":"@craigbro<\/a> @bkuhn<\/a> I'd hardly call it a dire prediction.
IPv6 lagging behind is in considerable part due to perverse incentives for ISPs to maximally rent-seek IPv4 addresses and \"business\" features.
IPv6 obsoletes a lot of their rent-seeking schemes, which they dislike.
The SANS instructor wrongly assumed companies cared more about doing things properly than screwing over customers for money.","url":"https:\/\/udongein.xyz\/objects\/9f1fcdb7-2bd1-4c1e-817a-37e2c03af0e3","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/users\/craigbro\/statuses\/116487865831742752","url":"https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/@craigbro\/116487865831742752"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/infosec.exchange\/users\/craigbro"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-30:objectType=thread:nonce=f5c054576e31a401","notice_info":{"local_id":"12530160","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-04-30T07:56:11+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/udongein.xyz\/objects\/9f1fcdb7-2bd1-4c1e-817a-37e2c03af0e3"}],"links":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/conversation\/6362746","rel":"alternate","type":"text\/html"}]}