{"generator":"GNU social 2.0.2-dev","title":"Conversation","totalItems":3,"items":[{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn","displayName":"Bradley M. K\u00fchn","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/353589-original-tmp20260610031242.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/353589-96-20260611164645.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/353589-48-20260610031330.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/353589-24-20260612120108.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"353589"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/353589-96-20260611164645.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"Software freedom activist since 1992. Copyleft theorist &amp; FOSS policy wonk. Expert in FOSS non-profit structures.Views expressed herein are mine &amp; not necessarily those of any organization w\/ which I&#39;m affiliated.Fediverse \u201cclaim to fame\u201d: Invented \u201cAffero clause\u201d of #Mastodon&#39;s license: https:\/\/ebb.org\/bkuhn\/blog\/2007\/11\/21\/stet-and-agplv31\u02e2\u1d57 #Linux:    0.99pl121\u02e2\u1d57 #Debian: \ud83e\uddca\ud83e\udd54Pronouns: he\/them#copyleft, #ethics for #LLMGenAI, #FOSS, #OpenSource, #AGPLv3, #GPL, #LGPL\ud83c\udff3\ufe0f\u200d\ud83c\udf08","url":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"bkuhn","displayName":"Bradley M. K\u00fchn","note":"Software freedom activist since 1992. Copyleft theorist &amp; FOSS policy wonk. Expert in FOSS non-profit structures.Views expressed herein are mine &amp; not necessarily those of any organization w\/ which I&#39;m affiliated.Fediverse \u201cclaim to fame\u201d: Invented \u201cAffero clause\u201d of #Mastodon&#39;s license: https:\/\/ebb.org\/bkuhn\/blog\/2007\/11\/21\/stet-and-agplv31\u02e2\u1d57 #Linux:    0.99pl121\u02e2\u1d57 #Debian: \ud83e\uddca\ud83e\udd54Pronouns: he\/them#copyleft, #ethics for #LLMGenAI, #FOSS, #OpenSource, #AGPLv3, #GPL, #LGPL\ud83c\udff3\ufe0f\u200d\ud83c\udf08"}},"content":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias\" class=\"u-url mention\">@dalias<\/a> <br \/>Any complex public policy litigation takes \u2265 10 years to make its way through the Courts. *Thaler* was an anomaly precisely because Thaler narrowed the issue on purpose to a pointless degree (just to make a point, apparently).<br \/>The reason copyleft exists is because rather than wait for the Courts &amp; legislature to make good law, we used the existing system against itself.<\/p><p>I propose we design a series of moves that can do the same for LLM-backed genAI.<\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/social.coop\/@cwebber\" class=\"u-url mention\">@cwebber<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/@zacchiro\" class=\"u-url mention\">@zacchiro<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@richardfontana\" class=\"u-url mention\">@richardfontana<\/a><\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-21:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn\/statuses\/116428502945771759","object":{"id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn\/statuses\/116428502945771759","objectType":"note","content":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias\" class=\"u-url mention\">@dalias<\/a> <br \/>Any complex public policy litigation takes \u2265 10 years to make its way through the Courts. *Thaler* was an anomaly precisely because Thaler narrowed the issue on purpose to a pointless degree (just to make a point, apparently).<br \/>The reason copyleft exists is because rather than wait for the Courts &amp; legislature to make good law, we used the existing system against itself.<\/p><p>I propose we design a series of moves that can do the same for LLM-backed genAI.<\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/social.coop\/@cwebber\" class=\"u-url mention\">@cwebber<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/@zacchiro\" class=\"u-url mention\">@zacchiro<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@richardfontana\" class=\"u-url mention\">@richardfontana<\/a><\/p>","url":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn\/116428502945771759","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias\/statuses\/116428489020021167","url":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias\/116428489020021167"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/users\/zacchiro"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/richardfontana"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/cwebber"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-19:objectType=thread:nonce=a6028d2931ecc659","notice_info":{"local_id":"12472223","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-04-19T00:24:05+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn\/116428502945771759"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias","displayName":"Rich Felker","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-original-tmp20221202140938.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-96-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-48-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-24-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"40873"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-96-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"C librarian, purveyor of the language&#39;s eldritch horrors. Poppin&#39; shells \ud83e\uddaa","url":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"dalias","displayName":"Rich Felker","note":"C librarian, purveyor of the language&#39;s eldritch horrors. Poppin&#39; shells \ud83e\uddaa"}},"content":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn\" class=\"u-url mention\">@bkuhn<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/social.coop\/@cwebber\" class=\"u-url mention\">@cwebber<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/@zacchiro\" class=\"u-url mention\">@zacchiro<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@richardfontana\" class=\"u-url mention\">@richardfontana<\/a> At the time we used the existing system against itself, it was largely a working system. Corporations actually feared \"IP\" law. They put \u2122 and \u00ae and \u00a9 all over the place meticulously. Companies had lost theirs by not doing in tin the past.<\/p><p>Nowadays, we hardly have a rule of law to begin with, and corporations just get to settle any infringement they're caught doing for 0.01% of the profit they made off the infringement. I don't see a way to use this system against itself. It's going to take more drastic things to tear it down.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-21:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias\/statuses\/116428519162123782","object":{"id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias\/statuses\/116428519162123782","objectType":"note","content":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn\" class=\"u-url mention\">@bkuhn<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/social.coop\/@cwebber\" class=\"u-url mention\">@cwebber<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/@zacchiro\" class=\"u-url mention\">@zacchiro<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@richardfontana\" class=\"u-url mention\">@richardfontana<\/a> At the time we used the existing system against itself, it was largely a working system. Corporations actually feared \"IP\" law. They put \u2122 and \u00ae and \u00a9 all over the place meticulously. Companies had lost theirs by not doing in tin the past.<\/p><p>Nowadays, we hardly have a rule of law to begin with, and corporations just get to settle any infringement they're caught doing for 0.01% of the profit they made off the infringement. I don't see a way to use this system against itself. It's going to take more drastic things to tear it down.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias\/116428519162123782","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn\/statuses\/116428502945771759","url":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn\/116428502945771759"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/users\/zacchiro"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/richardfontana"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/cwebber"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-19:objectType=thread:nonce=a6028d2931ecc659","notice_info":{"local_id":"12472224","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-04-19T00:24:03+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias\/116428519162123782"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias","displayName":"Rich Felker","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-original-tmp20221202140938.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-96-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-48-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-24-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"40873"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/40873-96-20221207231635.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"C librarian, purveyor of the language&#39;s eldritch horrors. Poppin&#39; shells \ud83e\uddaa","url":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"dalias","displayName":"Rich Felker","note":"C librarian, purveyor of the language&#39;s eldritch horrors. Poppin&#39; shells \ud83e\uddaa"}},"content":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn\" class=\"u-url mention\">@bkuhn<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/social.coop\/@cwebber\" class=\"u-url mention\">@cwebber<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/@zacchiro\" class=\"u-url mention\">@zacchiro<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@richardfontana\" class=\"u-url mention\">@richardfontana<\/a> We don't see any successful litigation yet stopping abusive \"AI\" companies from scooping up any free software, regardless of the strength of the license. It's a matter of power imbalance and who controls the legal system, not who's right or wrong. I don't thing stronger license terms will save us. Only organizing to bring them down can do that.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-07-21:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias\/statuses\/116428489020021167","object":{"id":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/users\/dalias\/statuses\/116428489020021167","objectType":"note","content":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/@bkuhn\" class=\"u-url mention\">@bkuhn<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/social.coop\/@cwebber\" class=\"u-url mention\">@cwebber<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/@zacchiro\" class=\"u-url mention\">@zacchiro<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@richardfontana\" class=\"u-url mention\">@richardfontana<\/a> We don't see any successful litigation yet stopping abusive \"AI\" companies from scooping up any free software, regardless of the strength of the license. It's a matter of power imbalance and who controls the legal system, not who's right or wrong. I don't thing stronger license terms will save us. Only organizing to bring them down can do that.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias\/116428489020021167","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.xyz\/users\/zacchiro"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/richardfontana"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/cwebber"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/fedi.copyleft.org\/users\/bkuhn"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-19:objectType=thread:nonce=a6028d2931ecc659","notice_info":{"local_id":"12472202","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-04-19T00:16:16+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/hachyderm.io\/@dalias\/116428489020021167"}],"links":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/conversation\/6332614","rel":"alternate","type":"text\/html"}]}