Using an LLM for half an hour is about 0.005kg CO2 with a dirty coal electrical grid<\/p>
And if use of the LLM were the biggest part of its electric cost, this would almost be a fair point (only almost, because there are things that go into that electricity use that are likely not being factored in, but that's not really the main point).<\/p>
But regular use is not the biggest problem. Training models consumes massive amounts of electricity. And AI companies are constantly training new models to improve their performance.<\/p>
And the only reason they need to keep training new models is because people keep using them.<\/p>
\"Using AI barely uses any electricity\" isn't a reasonable argument, because it obscures the fact that AI companies are using massive amounts of electricity.<\/p>
@evan@cosocial.ca<\/a> @Matt_Noyes@social.coop<\/a><\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/microwords.goodevilgenius.org\/o\/23096f2518bf432fa05c9a9f4e3ca522","object":{"id":"https:\/\/microwords.goodevilgenius.org\/o\/23096f2518bf432fa05c9a9f4e3ca522","objectType":"note","content":"\n Using an LLM for half an hour is about 0.005kg CO2 with a dirty coal electrical grid<\/p>\n\n And if use of the LLM were the biggest part of its electric cost, this would almost be a fair point (only almost, because there are things that go into that electricity use that are likely not being factored in, but that's not really the main point).<\/p>\n But regular use is not the biggest problem. Training models consumes massive amounts of electricity. And AI companies are constantly training new models to improve their performance.<\/p>\n And the only reason they need to keep training new models is because people keep using them.<\/p>\n \"Using AI barely uses any electricity\" isn't a reasonable argument, because it obscures the fact that AI companies are using massive amounts of electricity.<\/p>\n @evan@cosocial.ca<\/a> @Matt_Noyes@social.coop<\/a><\/p>","url":"https:\/\/microwords.goodevilgenius.org\/o\/23096f2518bf432fa05c9a9f4e3ca522","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115580076628853324","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11552215"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"12169512","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2026-02-21T23:48:08+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/microwords.goodevilgenius.org\/o\/23096f2518bf432fa05c9a9f4e3ca522"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. 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Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais."}},"content":"RT @evan @Matt_Noyes - driving a gas powered car about 10km generates about 2kg CO2 equivalent. @evan<\/a> We need to take seriously the moment we are in, when we can resist the proliferation of this system. On environmental grounds alone we can refuse to support this massively destructive technology.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@Matt_Noyes\/115579918702963756","status_net":{"notice_id":null}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"12164181","source":"ActivityPub","repeat_of":"11552214"}},"published":"2026-02-20T22:58:00+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"title":"evan repeated a notice by Matt_Noyes","verb":"share","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/116105428643637418\/activity"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais.","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","note":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais."}},"content":" @Matt_Noyes<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> I'll read the MIT paper more carefully and see if I can provide some more insight, though. Maybe I'm missing something important! Thanks for sharing it.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590873356529071","object":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590873356529071","objectType":"note","content":" @Matt_Noyes<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> I'll read the MIT paper more carefully and see if I can provide some more insight, though. Maybe I'm missing something important! Thanks for sharing it.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115590873356529071","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590870459927521","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11565022"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/adrianco"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11565024","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-22T01:59:27+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115590873356529071"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais.","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","note":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais."}},"content":" @Matt_Noyes<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> prima facie, even if people's AI use will triple, if it's 1\/1000th of the carbon footprint of cars or beef today, it will be 3\/1000 of the footprint in 2028. That's still pretty small.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590870459927521","object":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590870459927521","objectType":"note","content":" @Matt_Noyes<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> prima facie, even if people's AI use will triple, if it's 1\/1000th of the carbon footprint of cars or beef today, it will be 3\/1000 of the footprint in 2028. That's still pretty small.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11565022","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590864393486654","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115590864393486654"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/adrianco"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11565022","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-22T01:58:42+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11565022"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais.","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","note":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais."}},"content":" @Matt_Noyes<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> as best I can tell, it sounds like they project a doubling or tripling of AI use, and thus electricity needs of AI, by 2028. That very well could happen, but it doesn't sound like the carbon intensity of the activity itself will change.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590864393486654","object":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590864393486654","objectType":"note","content":" @Matt_Noyes<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> as best I can tell, it sounds like they project a doubling or tripling of AI use, and thus electricity needs of AI, by 2028. That very well could happen, but it doesn't sound like the carbon intensity of the activity itself will change.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115590864393486654","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590856854186965","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11565010"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/adrianco"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11565015","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-22T01:57:10+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115590864393486654"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes","displayName":"Matt Noyes","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-original-tmp20250901230743.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-96-20250904025754.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-48-20250903014418.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-24-20250904142918.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"9426"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-96-20250904025754.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/They. Democratic Movement Educator\/Organizer. #SolidarityEconomy #Cooperatives #Commoning #MondragonUniversity #GEO #Jinkore #rollingearth #farm_club","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@Matt_Noyes","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"Matt_Noyes","displayName":"Matt Noyes","note":"He\/They. Democratic Movement Educator\/Organizer. #SolidarityEconomy #Cooperatives #Commoning #MondragonUniversity #GEO #Jinkore #rollingearth #farm_club"}},"content":" @evan<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> What do you make of this? https:\/\/www.technologyreview.com\/2025\/05\/20\/1116327\/ai-energy-usage-climate-footprint-big-tech\/<\/a><\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes\/statuses\/115590371595934392","object":{"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes\/statuses\/115590371595934392","objectType":"note","content":" @evan<\/a> @adrianco<\/a> What do you make of this? https:\/\/www.technologyreview.com\/2025\/05\/20\/1116327\/ai-energy-usage-climate-footprint-big-tech\/<\/a><\/p>","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@Matt_Noyes\/115590371595934392","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115590269340233208","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11564244"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/adrianco"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11565009","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-22T01:55:19+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@Matt_Noyes\/115590371595934392"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais.","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","note":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. 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Currently Nubank and OrionX.net, Analyst\/Advisor\/Consultant\/Retired - ex Amazon, Battery Ventures, Netflix, eBay, Sun, CCL. Fixing up our houses, making strange noises, and sharing #photography #tfr enjoying life with @LaurelCo in Monterey county, California and with my parents in Weymouth Dorset UK.","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@adrianco","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"adrianco","displayName":"Adrian Cockcroft","note":"He\/him. Currently Nubank and OrionX.net, Analyst\/Advisor\/Consultant\/Retired - ex Amazon, Battery Ventures, Netflix, eBay, Sun, CCL. Fixing up our houses, making strange noises, and sharing #photography #tfr enjoying life with @LaurelCo in Monterey county, California and with my parents in Weymouth Dorset UK."}},"content":" @evan<\/a> @Matt_Noyes<\/a> I had a session a few weeks ago where I worked towards a rough estimate of the difference between a human and an agentic developer. Sharing to see if you think it makes sense. 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YMMV https:\/\/chatgpt.com\/s\/t_6920ea8e22688191a1950abc9dd6acf9<\/a><\/p>","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@adrianco\/115590102217519660","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115589565464078072","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11563083"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11564243","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-21T23:26:24+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@adrianco\/115590102217519660"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. 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Currently Nubank and OrionX.net, Analyst\/Advisor\/Consultant\/Retired - ex Amazon, Battery Ventures, Netflix, eBay, Sun, CCL. Fixing up our houses, making strange noises, and sharing #photography #tfr enjoying life with @LaurelCo in Monterey county, California and with my parents in Weymouth Dorset UK.","url":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/@adrianco","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"adrianco","displayName":"Adrian Cockcroft","note":"He\/him. Currently Nubank and OrionX.net, Analyst\/Advisor\/Consultant\/Retired - ex Amazon, Battery Ventures, Netflix, eBay, Sun, CCL. Fixing up our houses, making strange noises, and sharing #photography #tfr enjoying life with @LaurelCo in Monterey county, California and with my parents in Weymouth Dorset UK."}},"content":" @evan<\/a> @Matt_Noyes<\/a> What\u2019s the training cost for a human? Human programmers in the US are around 20 Tons of Carbon a year for their operational cost. I agree with Evan\u2019s data. It\u2019s in the same range as my own estimates, and I\u2019ve been working with the Green Software Foundation and tracking carbon use of cloud in detail for the last few years.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/adrianco\/statuses\/115585997294376948","object":{"id":"https:\/\/mastodon.social\/users\/adrianco\/statuses\/115585997294376948","objectType":"note","content":" @evan<\/a> @Matt_Noyes<\/a> What\u2019s the training cost for a human? Human programmers in the US are around 20 Tons of Carbon a year for their operational cost. I agree with Evan\u2019s data. 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And it doesn't address the concerns about the broader footprint - \"per request\" is a tiny, tiny piece of the potential impact, and says nothing about broader environmental\/social impacts.<\/p> I'm looking into another big tech company's data center footprint, and their self-reporting is full of errors and lies. Its not trustworthy at all.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca\/statuses\/115586392022867142","object":{"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca\/statuses\/115586392022867142","objectType":"note","content":" @evan<\/a> @Matt_Noyes<\/a> Chat GPT itself is not a reliable source for data about their emissions. And it doesn't address the concerns about the broader footprint - \"per request\" is a tiny, tiny piece of the potential impact, and says nothing about broader environmental\/social impacts.<\/p> I'm looking into another big tech company's data center footprint, and their self-reporting is full of errors and lies. Its not trustworthy at all.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@ncoca\/115586392022867142","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115585567956900180","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11558704"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11561414","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-21T14:51:15+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@ncoca\/115586392022867142"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. 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Can't wait to read what you find out.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11561415","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca\/statuses\/115586392022867142","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@ncoca\/115586392022867142"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11561415","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-21T14:51:13+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11561415"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.Greek, Arab, Palestinian, American, Canadian, Montr\u00e9alais.","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan","portablecontacts_net":{"preferredUsername":"evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","note":"He\/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.Research Director, Social Web Foundation.Author of "ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web" from O'Reilly Media.Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.Former co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of Activity Streams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. 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It's not going to change the scale that much.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11558704","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115585551453151300","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115585551453151300"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11558704","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-21T03:30:41+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11558704"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes","displayName":"Matt Noyes","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-original-tmp20250901230743.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-96-20250904025754.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-48-20250903014418.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-24-20250904142918.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"9426"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-96-20250904025754.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/They. 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There's not much trustworthy independent analysis as these companies aren't sharing data, and what it out there neglects other inputs with a potential climate impacts, such as construction, water usage, mining for minerals, or the energy used to produce semiconductor\/chip or other hardware.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca\/statuses\/115585492483835123","object":{"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca\/statuses\/115585492483835123","objectType":"note","content":" @Matt_Noyes<\/a> @evan<\/a> what's the source for that data? There's not much trustworthy independent analysis as these companies aren't sharing data, and what it out there neglects other inputs with a potential climate impacts, such as construction, water usage, mining for minerals, or the energy used to produce semiconductor\/chip or other hardware.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11558688","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes\/statuses\/115580110149133297","url":"https:\/\/social.coop\/@Matt_Noyes\/115580110149133297"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11558688","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-21T03:26:34+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11558688"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan","displayName":"Evan Prodromou","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-original-tmp20260418043002.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-48-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-24-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"77066"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/77066-96-20260418043032.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/him. 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For 0.01kWH, that's 5g or 0.005kg.<\/p>","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115585551453151300","object":{"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/115585551453151300","objectType":"note","content":" @ncoca<\/a> @Matt_Noyes<\/a> <\/p> ChatGPT uses 0.34Wh per request.<\/p> https:\/\/blog.samaltman.com\/the-gentle-singularity<\/a><\/p> For 30 minutes, one query per minute, that's 10Wh. <\/p> For typical coal electrical generation, it's ~500g CO2\/kWH. For 0.01kWH, that's 5g or 0.005kg.<\/p>","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115585551453151300","status_net":{"notice_id":null},"inReplyTo":{"objectType":"note","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca\/statuses\/115585492483835123","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/notice\/11558688"}},"to":[{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/person","id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/ncoca"},{"objectType":"http:\/\/activitystrea.ms\/schema\/1.0\/collection","id":"http:\/\/activityschema.org\/collection\/public"}],"status_net":{"conversation":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2025-11-20:objectType=thread:nonce=060d9c543f56e5fc","notice_info":{"local_id":"11558689","source":"ActivityPub"}},"published":"2025-11-21T03:26:33+00:00","provider":{"objectType":"service","displayName":"GNU social JP","url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/"},"verb":"post","url":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/@evan\/115585551453151300"},{"actor":{"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes","displayName":"Matt Noyes","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-original-tmp20250901230743.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":400,"height":400},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-96-20250904025754.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-48-20250903014418.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-24-20250904142918.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"9426"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/gnusocial.jp\/avatar\/9426-96-20250904025754.webp","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/webp","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","summary":"He\/They. 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- eating a single beef meal is about 9kg CO2 equivalent.
- Using an LLM for half an hour is about 0.005kg CO2 with a dirty coal electrical grid, much less with renewables.Maybe we have other things we should be working on first.","generator":{"id":"tag:gnusocial.jp,2026-04-18:notice-source:ActivityPub","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ActivityPub"}},"id":"https:\/\/cosocial.ca\/users\/evan\/statuses\/116105428643637418\/activity","object":{"id":"https:\/\/social.coop\/users\/Matt_Noyes\/statuses\/115579918702963756","objectType":"note","content":"